"Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by rijackson741 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:16 am

thebeast wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:28 pm
I believe the higher ac is needed to offset the actor condition of the spiders/plaguestrider monsters. Cause with 7× insect contagion it can really kill forward progress
I guess that's one way to look at it :) . It's true that that would help in this particular case. I would still go the route of more BC though, so that you don't get the condition in the first place. More BC would help everywhere in the game.
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by thebeast » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:18 am

rijackson741 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:16 am
thebeast wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:28 pm
I believe the higher ac is needed to offset the actor condition of the spiders/plaguestrider monsters. Cause with 7× insect contagion it can really kill forward progress
I guess that's one way to look at it :) . It's true that that would help in this particular case. I would still go the route of more BC though, so that you don't get the condition in the first place. More BC would help everywhere in the game.
Very true. Added bc prevents that so youre definitely right
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Wyborn » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:43 am

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Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:02 pm
The low BC will be a problem going to Remgard. Potions can heal the damage, but they can't stop nasty actor conditions. Some of the beasties on the way to Remgard deal them out in spades, which will make it very difficult.

Can't judge the AD, because you have not said what your attack cost is.

I disagree with the beast that more AC will help. Once your AC is much higher than the monsters BC, there is very little gain from yet more AC.
Attack cost is 3. Running Dagger of shadow priests, JoF, but I think I could afford to find a better shield and light helm, there rest is crit gear.

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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by rijackson741 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:21 pm

Then your AD per round is reasonable. You have a fairly good chance of taking out a Plaguestrider in one round, so as long as you get first hit you won't get any nasty actor conditions stuck on you. But you will not always get first hit, and unless you are very careful you may have to deal with more than one at a time, so you should do something about your BC, which is very low.
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Wyborn » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:26 pm

rijackson741 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:21 pm
Then your AD per round is reasonable. You have a fairly good chance of taking out a Plaguestrider in one round, so as long as you get first hit you won't get any nasty actor conditions stuck on you. But you will not always get first hit, and unless you are very careful you may have to deal with more than one at a time, so you should do something about your BC, which is very low.
I went and did some upgrading of equipment and leveled up, I'm almost to remgard now, just searching for the troll that drops my o crystal. Ended up running in with 67% bc, 229% ac, and ad went up from dark protector which also gave me a nice DR point. Thank you guys for your suggestions and helps, feels good getting there using only 25 pots when before I didn't even make it half way and used 100+ pots trying to cling to the dream lol.

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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by rijackson741 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:03 pm

Wyborn wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:26 pm
just searching for the troll that drops my o crystal.
He's not a troll, and he is extremely hard to see. Hiding in the shadows.

Edit. I was thinking of the wrong monster. There is indeed a troll, or at least a troll like monster, that has a crystal. If you go map by map and systematically kill everything, you will find him.
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Firefly84 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:26 pm

Or easier: After leaving the spider cave go up on the left side and defeat the Manoit there.
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Wyborn » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:21 pm

Firefly84 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:26 pm
Or easier: After leaving the spider cave go up on the left side and defeat the Manoit there.
I ended up finding him after I got done in remgard. You guys really helped me a ton, can't wait to go see the charwood trainer again.

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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Firefly84 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:57 pm

Firefly84 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:26 pm
Or easier: After leaving the spider cave go up on the left side and defeat the Manoit there.
Sorry, forgot to hide this. :oops:
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Re: "Remgard Area" & "Eastern Loneford" Quests

Post by Tomcat » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:08 pm

thebeast wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:18 am
rijackson741 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:16 am
thebeast wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:28 pm
I believe the higher ac is needed to offset the actor condition of the spiders/plaguestrider monsters. Cause with 7× insect contagion it can really kill forward progress
I guess that's one way to look at it :) . It's true that that would help in this particular case. I would still go the route of more BC though, so that you don't get the condition in the first place. More BC would help everywhere in the game.
Very true. Added bc prevents that so youre definitely right
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