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Extraordinary and legendary items

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Duke
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by Duke » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:33 pm

nyktos wrote: i always wanted to dual wield RoL!
but i never managed to get a second rapier... :evil:

on to the next note: cleave is amazing!!

if your build is set up a certain way,
it can be completely devastating.

:twisted:

Yes, dual wielding RoL gives you....0-6 HP per hit and 6 HP per kill, which equals pure awesomeness! Who needs BC when you can gain this much HP so easily!
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Duke
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by Duke » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:33 pm

nyktos wrote: i always wanted to dual wield RoL!
but i never managed to get a second rapier... :evil:

on to the next note: cleave is amazing!!

if your build is set up a certain way,
it can be completely devastating.

:twisted:

Yes, dual wielding RoL gives you....0-6 HP per hit and 6 HP per kill, which equals pure awesomeness! Who needs BC when you can gain this much HP so easily!
Lvl78 XP9403007 Gold 248643 AP3 HP139 AC350 AD42-59 BC97 DR1
SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
Rols1Rol2Elyr1Char1Golf1Shaf0Srov1Vsh1
Ozzy
lvl:47 HP114 AC254 AD27-37 BC112
SP:WA HH CS(2) CL CE IF(2) Reg
Rols1Rol0ElyR0Char2Shaf1Golf1Srov1Vsh1

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by Tomcat » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:50 pm

I'm considering trying dual wield for the first time, believe it or not, and I want to understand how the AP works for two weapons, especially that don't match AP. If you have an AP 5 and AP 4, and are wearing JoF, how many swings of each do you get?
Norbert
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by auroradormita » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:11 pm

If you go into the skills list and check out Fighting style: dual wield, there's a good explanation there I think.

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by rijackson741 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:20 pm

Tomcat wrote:I'm considering trying dual wield for the first time, believe it or not, and I want to understand how the AP works for two weapons, especially that don't match AP. If you have an AP 5 and AP 4, and are wearing JoF, how many swings of each do you get?
Effective attack costs are therefore 4 and 3, and dual wielding you get the higher of the two, so 4 AP. Assuming you have CS 2 you will get 3 attacks per round.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
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HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by Tomcat » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:32 pm

auroradormita wrote:If you go into the skills list and check out Fighting style: dual wield, there's a good explanation there I think.
Thanks for the pointer! I guess I never read all the way through that before. I think I understand it well enough now.

For my case, then if I have the AP 5 in main hand and AP 4 in off hand, then with no skill, it is 9AP for one swing with each, and I get only 1/4 of the off hand AC, AD, etc. With level 1, then it is AP 7 for a swing with each, and I get 1/2 the AC etc. With level 1 it is AP 5 for a swing, and all the AC etc.

So the eventual goal could be CS2, Dual wield level 2, JoF, a pair of AP 4 (3 with JoF) weapons, for four swings of both with full effect. Or two RoL for three swings of both with full effect.
Norbert
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by rijackson741 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:31 pm

Tomcat wrote:So the eventual goal could ... Dual wield level 2,
Yeah, I think with dual wield you either go for level 2, or don't bother with it at all.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by Tomcat » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:22 pm

rijackson741 wrote:
Tomcat wrote:So the eventual goal could ... Dual wield level 2,
Yeah, I think with dual wield you either go for level 2, or don't bother with it at all.
Definitely. Probably true for the other two, as well, though perhaps to a lesser degree.

So now the question is whether to go for two daggers or two swords, but I have plenty of time to decide how best to spend Oegyth crystals.
Norbert
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by rijackson741 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:30 pm

I spent extra crystals so that I can use daggers or swords (or a combo, which is actually what I use most of the time). Kind of an expensive choice though :|
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Post by nyktos » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:27 am

rijackson741 wrote:I spent extra crystals so that I can use daggers or swords (or a combo, which is actually what I use most of the time). Kind of an expensive choice though :|
totally did the same thing! :mrgreen:
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