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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:33 pm
by Duke
nyktos wrote: i always wanted to dual wield RoL!
but i never managed to get a second rapier... :evil:

on to the next note: cleave is amazing!!

if your build is set up a certain way,
it can be completely devastating.

:twisted:

Yes, dual wielding RoL gives you....0-6 HP per hit and 6 HP per kill, which equals pure awesomeness! Who needs BC when you can gain this much HP so easily!

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:33 pm
by Duke
nyktos wrote: i always wanted to dual wield RoL!
but i never managed to get a second rapier... :evil:

on to the next note: cleave is amazing!!

if your build is set up a certain way,
it can be completely devastating.

:twisted:

Yes, dual wielding RoL gives you....0-6 HP per hit and 6 HP per kill, which equals pure awesomeness! Who needs BC when you can gain this much HP so easily!

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:50 pm
by Tomcat
I'm considering trying dual wield for the first time, believe it or not, and I want to understand how the AP works for two weapons, especially that don't match AP. If you have an AP 5 and AP 4, and are wearing JoF, how many swings of each do you get?

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:11 pm
by auroradormita
If you go into the skills list and check out Fighting style: dual wield, there's a good explanation there I think.

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:20 pm
by rijackson741
Tomcat wrote:I'm considering trying dual wield for the first time, believe it or not, and I want to understand how the AP works for two weapons, especially that don't match AP. If you have an AP 5 and AP 4, and are wearing JoF, how many swings of each do you get?
Effective attack costs are therefore 4 and 3, and dual wielding you get the higher of the two, so 4 AP. Assuming you have CS 2 you will get 3 attacks per round.

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:32 pm
by Tomcat
auroradormita wrote:If you go into the skills list and check out Fighting style: dual wield, there's a good explanation there I think.
Thanks for the pointer! I guess I never read all the way through that before. I think I understand it well enough now.

For my case, then if I have the AP 5 in main hand and AP 4 in off hand, then with no skill, it is 9AP for one swing with each, and I get only 1/4 of the off hand AC, AD, etc. With level 1, then it is AP 7 for a swing with each, and I get 1/2 the AC etc. With level 1 it is AP 5 for a swing, and all the AC etc.

So the eventual goal could be CS2, Dual wield level 2, JoF, a pair of AP 4 (3 with JoF) weapons, for four swings of both with full effect. Or two RoL for three swings of both with full effect.

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:31 pm
by rijackson741
Tomcat wrote:So the eventual goal could ... Dual wield level 2,
Yeah, I think with dual wield you either go for level 2, or don't bother with it at all.

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:22 pm
by Tomcat
rijackson741 wrote:
Tomcat wrote:So the eventual goal could ... Dual wield level 2,
Yeah, I think with dual wield you either go for level 2, or don't bother with it at all.
Definitely. Probably true for the other two, as well, though perhaps to a lesser degree.

So now the question is whether to go for two daggers or two swords, but I have plenty of time to decide how best to spend Oegyth crystals.

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:30 pm
by rijackson741
I spent extra crystals so that I can use daggers or swords (or a combo, which is actually what I use most of the time). Kind of an expensive choice though :|

Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:27 am
by nyktos
rijackson741 wrote:I spent extra crystals so that I can use daggers or swords (or a combo, which is actually what I use most of the time). Kind of an expensive choice though :|
totally did the same thing! :mrgreen: