No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

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No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby flurgx » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:46 pm

Hi!

I started playing yesterday - and had problems coming thru the rat cave - with all those rats respawning at a fast rate (i didn't know that I could use bread, since I was new)
however, I only managed the Quest, because on one try, there were NO rats in the cave, except the Queen rat - so I walked thru, killed her and completed the quest.
But that's not what it should be like, right?

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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby fiernaq » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:06 pm

While you are on a map, individual monsters on that map have a small chance to respawn at any time.

If you leave a map for 3 minutes, all monsters on that map will respawn.

So if you can run all the way through the cave clearing every rat in less than 3 minutes then your run back will be almost entirely devoid of monsters (unless an individual monster respawns while you're on that map). If you clear one room, move to the next, and don't go back to the first room for 3 minutes then every monster in that first room will have respawned.
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby sorrow » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:33 pm

Or leave the area find a bed and rest that rests everything

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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby flurgx » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:29 pm

yes, thank you for that!
I understand - even thoug that "small percentage" for the monster to respawn while i am still in that room seems to be a "high percentage" for me ...

BUT that was not the bug .. the bug was, I walked into that cave (ready to fight once more), and there was NO SINGLE rat except the queen rat - that was the only way I could manage to clear the quest :)

It was a helpful bug, but still it's a bug!
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby PK17 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:53 pm

flurgx wrote:yes, thank you for that!
I understand - even thoug that "small percentage" for the monster to respawn while i am still in that room seems to be a "high percentage" for me ...

BUT that was not the bug .. the bug was, I walked into that cave (ready to fight once more), and there was NO SINGLE rat except the queen rat - that was the only way I could manage to clear the quest :)

It was a helpful bug, but still it's a bug!
just 4 info


Although what you are saying is possible, it is highly unlikely considering noone else has had this problem.

I would have to ASSUME that you cleared the regular rats, left, healed without resting, and re-enterd the cave (as long as you were faster than the 3 minutes what you killed previously should still be gone) to find only the big one for the quest.

However, maybe you did come across a lucky bug, and if it is a bug we would need to be able to reproduce the scenario and try to find what caused it. But again, it is the very start of the game, and if nobody has ever found the bug before I doubt it was really a bug. Thank you for reporting it though, we will have this to refference if anyone else has the same issue.
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby flurgx » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:33 am

I'm thanking you for your response - I can assure you it was a bug, because I was lvl 3 (or so), and totaly unable to clear that cave - I didn't know how the "bread" was working, so i always went to bed, to recover myself .. besides it's just around the corner, right?

Reproducing the scenario might be a bit complicated ..
I was doing lot of things, mainly trying to sneak thru the rats to get to the queen ..
Dying often - but always reloading the file, where I was about to enter the cave ...
I am not sure, but I think that was what I did .. reloading the file ...

(Or with a tiny percentage, I went to bed, and into the cave again)

Keep it for the records ...
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby sorrow » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:14 am

This is a bug. But its not a respawn bug but a death bug. Ive encountered this bug before when we were testing alpha 7.0 and this bug would move from map to map. What happens is the player would enter a fight die the goes to the place were they died and the map would be cleared. Now in this case the reason why the queen rat was still there is because its a set on time kill ncp and so this bug would not effect it.

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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby PK17 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:04 am

sorrow wrote:This is a bug. But its not a respawn bug but a death bug. Ive encountered this bug before when we were testing alpha 7.0 and this bug would move from map to map. What happens is the player would enter a fight die the goes to the place were they died and the map would be cleared. Now in this case the reason why the queen rat was still there is because its a set on time kill ncp and so this bug would not effect it.



Ahhhh, yes I remember you reporting this now. Thank you for jogging my memory on that one.
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby Pyrizzle » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:56 am

I'm still not convinced it is a bug.... the save file you have been reloading from could have already been cleared of all the normal rats before you saved it.

Bug or not thank you for taking the time to report this.

I am unable to reproduce this bug.
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Re: No Rats in the Cave (First big Quest) v0.7.0

Postby Oet » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Pyrizzle wrote:I am unable to reproduce this bug.


I had some time to kill earlier today at work and tried to reproduce this bug without success. I guess one of the explanations above must be true.
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