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On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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I was through with all the quests and went to try and get the RoL by killing the Kazaul imps. I was doing the method of having a save of 2 imps in a strategic position, killing them and seeing what I get and, if not the RoL, reloading and killing again. I noticed the imps don't give out items very often, so I decided to count the number of times I received an item and times I did not. Fifty-four times out of a hundred they gave nothing but gold and XP. If we are to use the measure items (Small rock (500), Polished sparkling gem (1000)) then then you would have to kill an astronomical amount of the one creature to get the RoL. I was wondering whether instead of just the Kazaul imps dropping the RoL could you make the Kazaul spawn another monster that will drop the item? It won't increase the odds by much, but all the monsters in the cave would be able to drop the RoL. What do you think?
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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Hello Grawmpy, and welcome to the forums.

The RoL only has a 1/10,000 drop chance, so you are correct that you will probably have to kill a lot of imps to get one. If you kill 6900 of them you have a 50% chance of getting the prize. You might be lucky though, or unlucky. I got my RoLS after only 161 kills. I killed 7800 imps to get my RoL though.

I don't think making the Kazaul spawn also drop the RoL would be fair to those that have already ground for the RoL.
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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The odds of getting one of the legendary items is a tough one, but if you keep at it you'll find one eventually...

I have had characters get one super early (like under 100 rocks) and have had them drop super late (over 3k rocks)

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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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I killed over 250 of them and steel nothing.
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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At 250, you are just scratching the surface ;)
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HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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Like I am currently grinding for a 1/1000 drop, and 2535 kills later, nada.

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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That's pretty unlucky, because with that many kills you had a 92% chance of getting it. :mrgreen:
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

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Tomcat wrote:Like I am currently grinding for a 1/1000 drop, and 2535 kills later, nada.

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...
i had a similar expereience with the GoLF! :shock:
like 3k i think? it was crazy... :lol:
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Games of chance....
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Re: On the RoL and Kazaul imps.

Post by Pyrizzle »

Yeah, when i was trying to get my first RoLS i ended up collecting somewhere around 3k small stones....

I ended up spreading them across the fields in Loneford once i finally got my precious.

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