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Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:22 pm
by twirlimp
Zukero wrote:- Advice: backwards compatibility with saves is easy to screw up, so make sure to do it, and test it, step by step.
Yeah I made sure to add a file-version check, and the new data I'm writing is easy to follow.
It seems to be working fine and since yesterday I've been mostly working with an old save file, so it seems to be compatible.

I don't mind about the snippets -- do what you think is best.
I really intended to creating new branches later, but I guess I was underestimating my free time in the vacation...
Zukero wrote:- All features in the same branch means more work to merge only some of them
If you're only going to accept certain features, tell me beforehand so I'd make a new branch with all the features and remove the unwanted features from the main fork.

I'd rather remove the unwanted features myself as I already know the inter-dependencies involved.
It'll save you a lot of time.

But hey, why only merge some if it?
Except for the UI, everything I did with either ranged or monsters can toggled off easily.
Just don't spawn any ranged weapons, and set all the new monster parameters to 0 by default.

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:46 am
by Ldelandy
ranged weapon has the greater advantage than a melee weapons , what about this game , is ther any weapon that has greater advantage than a range weapon??

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:36 am
by Voom
Ldelandy wrote:ranged weapon has the greater advantage than a melee weapons , what about this game , is ther any weapon that has greater advantage than a range weapon??
Well, let's be creative (stick to the appropriate era/age of the world of AT; cannot be something like a bazooka).

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:33 pm
by nyxkitty
*will read entire thread when properly conscious*

Presets and inventory sorting: love it! A button, maybe, rather than drop-down for sorting.

Movement is messed up. I nearly bypassed the River Troll because he'd gone so far across the bridge.

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:38 am
by twirlimp
nyxkitty wrote:*will read entire thread when properly conscious*

Presets and inventory sorting: love it! A button, maybe, rather than drop-down for sorting.

Movement is messed up. I nearly bypassed the River Troll because he'd gone so far across the bridge.
Yeah there's a slight increase in speed of movement for the monsters for some reason.
I wasn't sure about it myself but I'm glad someone else confirmed it.
I have a solid idea about the exact function that caused this change, and I'll see if I get time to dive in the next couple of weekends.

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:42 am
by twirlimp
Ldelandy wrote:ranged weapon has the greater advantage than a melee weapons , what about this game , is ther any weapon that has greater advantage than a range weapon??
I tried to make it so that ranged weapons have enough negative drawbacks to balance them with melee.

They have less accuracy the more the range, and they cause a stat condition that makes your dodge decrease (so you have to run before the monsters reach you).

I might have even over-nerfed the ranged weaponry just to be sure they're not overpowered.
I wanted them to be situational from the start (e.g. too dangerous for melee because multiple enemies crowded together) and not a fit-all alternative to melee.

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:38 pm
by Voom
twirlimp wrote:
Ldelandy wrote:ranged weapon has the greater advantage than a melee weapons , what about this game , is ther any weapon that has greater advantage than a range weapon??
I tried to make it so that ranged weapons have enough negative drawbacks to balance them with melee.

They have less accuracy the more the range, and they cause a stat condition that makes your dodge decrease (so you have to run before the monsters reach you).

I might have even over-nerfed the ranged weaponry just to be sure they're not overpowered.
I wanted them to be situational from the start (e.g. too dangerous for melee because multiple enemies crowded together) and not a fit-all alternative to melee.
That would make them only utility weapons, a tool to call over mobs because of a certain situation. It provides a good alternative to the skill Cleave. Just don't make it too underpowered ....please :? :)

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:14 am
by twirlimp
Voom wrote:
twirlimp wrote:
Ldelandy wrote:ranged weapon has the greater advantage than a melee weapons , what about this game , is ther any weapon that has greater advantage than a range weapon??
I tried to make it so that ranged weapons have enough negative drawbacks to balance them with melee.

They have less accuracy the more the range, and they cause a stat condition that makes your dodge decrease (so you have to run before the monsters reach you).

I might have even over-nerfed the ranged weaponry just to be sure they're not overpowered.
I wanted them to be situational from the start (e.g. too dangerous for melee because multiple enemies crowded together) and not a fit-all alternative to melee.
That would make them only utility weapons, a tool to call over mobs because of a certain situation. It provides a good alternative to the skill Cleave. Just don't make it too underpowered ....please :? :)
Nah we can always add/decrease the accuracy and calculate whether there will be the same dps.
And the -ve dodge chance is to compensate for the extra range. I'd say that's fair.

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:40 pm
by Voom
twirlimp wrote: Nah we can always add/decrease the accuracy and calculate whether there will be the same dps.
And the -ve dodge chance is to compensate for the extra range. I'd say that's fair.
Yes :mrgreen:

Re: Github Fork: Ranged Weapons, Monsters follow player and/or flee.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:04 pm
by Antison
I just read through (or at least skimmed) 14 pages of this thread and did not ready whether a decision was made to merge this feature into the main code set or not.