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Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:35 am
by ace
oh no! maybe I can get some support.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:31 pm
by rijackson741
Sorry. It got the most votes, and there is some sort of logic behind it. As far as pronunciation goes, compared to Xul'viir it's a breeze
A name for the world is something we could discuss / argue about forever, and we will never all agree. We needed to straighten out the background lore of the world, and part of that was the name. So we picked Dhayavar.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:37 pm
by ace
OK. go on ahead. you are right but still I will not call my beloved world of AT Dhayavar. I wonder if Oscar was here which one will he choose?
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:01 pm
by rijackson741
ace wrote:I wonder if Oscar was here which one will he choose?
We may never know. Possibly, none of the ones any of us like
I have been involved in product naming for years, and it's always like this. You ask 10 people, and you get 10 different answers. The best you can hope for is that 3-4 coalesce around one name. In the end, you have to make a choice, and go with it.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:25 pm
by ace
Ah! I am weird. I still can't convince myself.
Edit: but for a project like this it's better to go with majority. I will be against it but if there is no one in my support, it will be a time waste for all.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:47 pm
by Lady Drager
zukero wrote:
Here's a new one: Dhayavar.
It comes from two words in Avestan, Dhayav (meaning country, place, realm) and Var (meaning choice).
Translations comes from this page
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/ ... -EI-R.html and I mashed two of them with no respect to whatever might be the true form of the language. I'm no linguist after all, just looking for inspiration with justification
Avestan is a long lost language with roots in Persia (Iran), and the main trace we have of it is in the holy books of Zoroastrianism, which is the religion whose prophet was Zarathustra, and is based on the opposition of twin deities representing Light and Shadow (or actually, any two opposing concepts, like Good and Evil). I thought this was close enough from our world to deserve giving it a shot.
I had actually read about this in my theology studies. It is theorized as a possible origin of the current monotheistic beliefs. Yet it also has a few parallels with several legends of the origin of the polytheistic gods.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:48 pm
by Voom
Exactly, Dhayavar has a significant meaning: the land of choices; given the context of the derivation of its language, Avestan. It could also be interpreted as the land of options, -opportunities, -decisions. Maybe the land of the alternative.
However one defines it for themselves, I actually think it sounds pretty darn awesome. "The Land of Dhayavar". Almost has an arcane ring to it, which I like a lot.
@ace If you can't swallow it, then you should vote in the poll. If you notice it says "other" as an option. That's there for a reason. But I doubt you (or anyone) could come up with a name with more meaning and context such as the one we have agreed to already. IF YOU DO, we would definitely like to know. No sweat.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:01 am
by Lady Drager
Well, the way I see it, since the best I've got off the top of my head is Variland (as in varied land) Dhayavar is cool with me. I suppose if I did some research... hmmmm.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:29 pm
by ace
actually AT is a global game and I am sure most of the players will have a hard time understanding the purpose of this name. I would prefer a name that's more appealing and I don't have to search for the meaning of that.
also I am sure not everyone is of same age and have same knowledge (like me). wouldn't it be right to make sure that what you are going to present to the world is easily understandable by all(different cultures and age).
but whatever devs already decided so there's no going back, I suppose.
Re: World of AT
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:54 pm
by Zukero
The meaning is not meant to be understood. I just wanted a cool sounding name, and didn't want to make it up, out of the blue. Moreover, I wanted to do my best to avoid creating a name that could have an offensive, or inappropriate, meaning in another language.