Never used QL and I've reached level 100 but I think I would need some to make my life easier if I want to reach 200.
I want to hit 200 to get CE of 5, BS of 5, Light Armor Pro of 3 and have some extra skill points.
Is QL of 2-3 enough? I plan on getting them when I hit 104,108 and 112 respectively.
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Asking for advice on QL
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Asking for advice on QL
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
I got four with one character and that is a 20% boost. I'd think you would want that at a minimum
Lvl78 XP9403007 Gold 248643 AP3 HP139 AC350 AD42-59 BC97 DR1
SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
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lvl:47 HP114 AC254 AD27-37 BC112
SP:WA HH CS(2) CL CE IF(2) Reg
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SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
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Ozzy
lvl:47 HP114 AC254 AD27-37 BC112
SP:WA HH CS(2) CL CE IF(2) Reg
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
You don't NEED it, the boost helps, but you still have to put in the work... That's like taking steroids and thinking you didn't have to work out.
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
Does anyone have any idea of the xp required to level up from level 1-200 on a per level basis?
That will help me make a better decision if QL of 3-4 is better or just grind away. I'm just concerned that if I grind without any xp boost, I'm going to eventually feel like I'm grinding for a ROL.
It would become a painful, monotonous and boring experience
That will help me make a better decision if QL of 3-4 is better or just grind away. I'm just concerned that if I grind without any xp boost, I'm going to eventually feel like I'm grinding for a ROL.
It would become a painful, monotonous and boring experience
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
The XP required to gain a level if you are at level X is X^2*55. So to reach level 101 from level 100 requires 100*100*55=550,000 XP.
Using that formula you can calculate that it requires (2*X - 1)*55 more XP to reach the next level than it did to reach your current level.
QL is an interesting skill, mathematically speaking. At one point I tried to determine if increasing QL every 4 levels could ever reduce the time required to gain the next 4 levels (assuming a constant kills/second rate). My recollection is that you can never reduce the time, but you can almost freeze it, i.e. if you take QL at level 104 it will take you almost the same amount of time to reach level 108 as it did to go from level 100 to level 104. Of course this would require a commitment to use all future SP on QL in order to maintain the near-constant time to gain the next 4 levels.
Using that formula you can calculate that it requires (2*X - 1)*55 more XP to reach the next level than it did to reach your current level.
QL is an interesting skill, mathematically speaking. At one point I tried to determine if increasing QL every 4 levels could ever reduce the time required to gain the next 4 levels (assuming a constant kills/second rate). My recollection is that you can never reduce the time, but you can almost freeze it, i.e. if you take QL at level 104 it will take you almost the same amount of time to reach level 108 as it did to go from level 100 to level 104. Of course this would require a commitment to use all future SP on QL in order to maintain the near-constant time to gain the next 4 levels.
Lvl: 408, XP: 1242518785, Gold: 10041116
RoLS: 9, ElyR: 14, RoL: 9, HoF: 9, YN: 8
ChaR: 80, GoLF: 75, ShaF: 80, SRoV: 73, VSH: 84, WMC: 74, GoW: 77, BD: 74, HS: 75, WoB: 78
HP: 5641, AC: 583, AD: 248-267, AP: 4, BC: 521
RoLS: 9, ElyR: 14, RoL: 9, HoF: 9, YN: 8
ChaR: 80, GoLF: 75, ShaF: 80, SRoV: 73, VSH: 84, WMC: 74, GoW: 77, BD: 74, HS: 75, WoB: 78
HP: 5641, AC: 583, AD: 248-267, AP: 4, BC: 521
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
Interesting point Tristan.
Hmmmm... Choices choices choices
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
Looks like I'm not getting QL. Hope I don't get bored grinding my way to 200
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
If I'm not mistaking, Tristan doesn't have QL.
I remember his old signature the skills were only CS and IF and 20-something free skill points.
I remember his old signature the skills were only CS and IF and 20-something free skill points.
Lvl: 390, XP: 1084502797, Gold: 23324139
HP: 5190, AC: 738%, AD: 174-192, AP: 4, ECC: -, CM: -, BC: 422%, DR: 9
RoLS: 10, ElyR: 10, RoL: 10, ChaR: 40, GoLF: 40, ShaF: 40, SRoV: 40, VSH: 40, WMC: 41, GoW: 40
HP: 5190, AC: 738%, AD: 174-192, AP: 4, ECC: -, CM: -, BC: 422%, DR: 9
RoLS: 10, ElyR: 10, RoL: 10, ChaR: 40, GoLF: 40, ShaF: 40, SRoV: 40, VSH: 40, WMC: 41, GoW: 40
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
I broke down at level 168 and booked 20 skill points in QL, though I may revisit that decision at some point. My commute time changed from a three-hour flight every Sun & Fri to a 20-minute flight every Sun & Fri. The reduction in available grinding time necessitated a change in strategy .
So currently QL:20, IF:16, 3 points in the Dual-Wield skills, and 20 unused.
So currently QL:20, IF:16, 3 points in the Dual-Wield skills, and 20 unused.
Lvl: 408, XP: 1242518785, Gold: 10041116
RoLS: 9, ElyR: 14, RoL: 9, HoF: 9, YN: 8
ChaR: 80, GoLF: 75, ShaF: 80, SRoV: 73, VSH: 84, WMC: 74, GoW: 77, BD: 74, HS: 75, WoB: 78
HP: 5641, AC: 583, AD: 248-267, AP: 4, BC: 521
RoLS: 9, ElyR: 14, RoL: 9, HoF: 9, YN: 8
ChaR: 80, GoLF: 75, ShaF: 80, SRoV: 73, VSH: 84, WMC: 74, GoW: 77, BD: 74, HS: 75, WoB: 78
HP: 5641, AC: 583, AD: 248-267, AP: 4, BC: 521
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Re: Asking for advice on QL
20 points in QL I'll see how far I can grind before I start feeling the strain. When that happens, I'll start putting points in QL.
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3
UPDATED: 02/01/2014
*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves