Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by rijackson741 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:55 pm

Take a deep breath. Relax :D I wasn't proposing taking away the QSD of even nerfing it. What I meant was that if you take away most of the BC penalty of the QSD then it would be possible to dual wield them, with devastating effect. So devastating in fact that there wouldn't be any other weapon worth playing with. That could be fixed by, for example, moving 15% of the existing 20% BC penalty to a new (stackable) actor condition. Then it would be no worse than it is now. In fact slightly better.
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Pyrizzle » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:55 am

Already made a copy of the new idea and posted in it's own thread, you can find it here
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5664

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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by rijackson741 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:31 am

I've put this on my to-do list. However, Zukero has not weighed in on this idea, and I am a junior member of the dev team, so no guarantees it will happen.
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Antison » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:57 am

rijackson741 wrote:However, Zukero has not weighed in on this idea
This is exactly why I didn't want this thread highjacked. I didn't want this "covered up".

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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Tomcat » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:10 am

Antison wrote:
rijackson741 wrote:However, Zukero has not weighed in on this idea
This is exactly why I didn't want this thread highjacked. I didn't want this "covered up".
True. I just have no idea how to break off a new thread when an idea comes up like this without losing the quote.
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Pyrizzle » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:45 am

Tomcat wrote:
Antison wrote:
rijackson741 wrote:However, Zukero has not weighed in on this idea
This is exactly why I didn't want this thread highjacked. I didn't want this "covered up".
True. I just have no idea how to break off a new thread when an idea comes up like this without losing the quote.
Message me or flag the post and an admin will fix it for ya :D
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Tomcat » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:48 am

Cool, thanks!

Back to topic:

So if it has a big negative, then it gets a bigger improvement than if it has a small one?

In the proposed change, I mean...
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by rijackson741 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:09 pm

Yes. If it has a negative block chance then 30% of the negative block chance would be removed for each skill level. The same for attack chance, although there are only two weapons in the game with a negative attack chance, and one of those is a scepter, so there's no proficiency skill.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by Tomcat » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:17 pm

The blunt weapon proficiency doesn't apply to the scepter?
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Re: Weapon proficiency skill and negative base block chance

Post by rijackson741 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:23 pm

I didn't know that skill existed :lol: .
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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