RoLS estimate?

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RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Fri May 25, 2018 5:19 pm

Is there an estimated amount of trainers and masters that need to be killed to have a good chance to find the ring? I killed over 600 trainers and 300 masters and still nothing, but I also have no magical finder skills, I'm definitly going to get that skill in my next skill unlock :P
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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by rijackson741 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:37 pm

This is the probability of finding an extraordinary item or a legendary item, vs the number of kills:
Prob of Ext of Leg Item - 0 level MF.png
With 900 kills your chance of success was about 10%.
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Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Fri May 25, 2018 5:43 pm

is that with or without magical finder? also, so the chances increase for every kill i get?
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| AC (AP): 5 | AC: 298% | AD: 32-52 | CHS: 19 | CM: 2.0 | ECC: 14% | BC: 100% | DR: 6

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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by rijackson741 » Fri May 25, 2018 6:37 pm

That is with no MF. The chance is always the same: one in 10,000. But more kills makes it more likely you will get one. If you kill 10,000 you have about a 60% chance of getting a ring. Probability does not have a memory though. If you kill 10,000 and do not get a ring, the chance on the next kill is still 1 in 10,000.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Fri May 25, 2018 9:10 pm

okay cool, thanks :)
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| AC (AP): 5 | AC: 298% | AD: 32-52 | CHS: 19 | CM: 2.0 | ECC: 14% | BC: 100% | DR: 6

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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Sun May 27, 2018 5:00 pm

rijackson741 wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:37 pm
That is with no MF. The chance is always the same: one in 10,000. But more kills makes it more likely you will get one. If you kill 10,000 you have about a 60% chance of getting a ring. Probability does not have a memory though. If you kill 10,000 and do not get a ring, the chance on the next kill is still 1 in 10,000.
If I got a skill upgrade in MF will my chances reset mid-grind or no?
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Level: 60 | HP: 144/144 | Total EXP: 3932578 | Gold: 143077 | AP: 10/0 | ReC (AP): 5 | UiC (AP): 5 | MC (AP): 6
| AC (AP): 5 | AC: 298% | AD: 32-52 | CHS: 19 | CM: 2.0 | ECC: 14% | BC: 100% | DR: 6

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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by rijackson741 » Mon May 28, 2018 11:21 am

I'm not sure what you mean by "reset". With no levels of MF your chance of a drop is 1 in 10,000. With one level of MF your chance of a drop is 1 in 6666. What you have done prior to getting a level of MF makes no difference.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm

rijackson741 wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 11:21 am
I'm not sure what you mean by "reset". With no levels of MF your chance of a drop is 1 in 10,000. With one level of MF your chance of a drop is 1 in 6666. What you have done prior to getting a level of MF makes no difference.
I got a level of MF during my grinding for the Rols, with my 900 kills. I was just worried if I got a MF skill while I got all these trainer and master kills would my chances be bugged out or something
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Level: 60 | HP: 144/144 | Total EXP: 3932578 | Gold: 143077 | AP: 10/0 | ReC (AP): 5 | UiC (AP): 5 | MC (AP): 6
| AC (AP): 5 | AC: 298% | AD: 32-52 | CHS: 19 | CM: 2.0 | ECC: 14% | BC: 100% | DR: 6

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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by rijackson741 » Mon May 28, 2018 2:13 pm

Your current kills have no effect on the chances in the future.
Level: 64, XP: 4734786, HP: 196, AC: 246%, AD: 49-59, AP: 3, ECC: 25%, CM: 3, BC: 127%, DR: 2
Gold: 232355 | RoLS: 1, RoL: 1, GoW: 1
HH: 1, CS: 2, IF: 4, Ev: 3, Re: 2, WP:DA: 1, WP:1S: 1, AP:L: 1, FS:DW: 2, S:DW: 1
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Re: RoLS estimate?

Post by The Gray » Tue May 29, 2018 2:44 am

rijackson741 wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 2:13 pm
Your current kills have no effect on the chances in the future.
If I increased my Magical Finder skill during my RoLS grind, as a result of upgrading, did it reset my chances of getting the ring or did it just increase it even more?
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Level: 60 | HP: 144/144 | Total EXP: 3932578 | Gold: 143077 | AP: 10/0 | ReC (AP): 5 | UiC (AP): 5 | MC (AP): 6
| AC (AP): 5 | AC: 298% | AD: 32-52 | CHS: 19 | CM: 2.0 | ECC: 14% | BC: 100% | DR: 6

Specialization: Weapon and Shield

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