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jeromey67
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Rols grinding in permadeath mode

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How many days did it took you to get the Rols without MF skill?
Last edited by jeromey67 on Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Rols grinding

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5 hours average with save/reload and 3 mobs gathered within attack distance.

If you grind and kill regularily, I think its an average of 50 hours playtime
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Re: Rols grinding

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CKork wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:22 am
5 hours average with save/reload and 3 mobs gathered within attack distance.

If you grind and kill regularily, I think its an average of 50 hours playtime
what about in permadeath mode?It took me 2 days and still no rols
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Re: Rols grinding

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I think it's different experience every players. Depends on your lucks too, sometime you can get L/E fast sometime "a little bit long" grind. At the beginning I'm trying to get extraordinary items first. And mostly of it, exact as measure items I get. But when I'm trying to get legendary items it's really need a long time to get it because it have low probability to founds it (and yeahh, I know what you feel, it can really become so boring to grind all the time)

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Re: Rols grinding

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jeromey67 wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:04 pm
CKork wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:22 am
5 hours average with save/reload and 3 mobs gathered within attack distance.

If you grind and kill regularily, I think its an average 50 hours playtime
what about in permadeath mode?It took me 2 days and still no rols
For RolS it would be 36 hours of playtime in average. But, as chance has it, can be 5 Minutes, can be 250 hours :?
What I do to roughly estimate the time:
Count all drop mops of the item you're looking for in the map/maps you grind it in. Since map respawn rate is roughly 3 minutes, assume that's the amount of mobs you kill every 3 minutes (potetially some more).
You know a legendary has a drop chance of 1 in 10.000.
So for RolS 10.000 mobs × 3 minutes / 14 mobs = 2143 minutes = 36 hours.

Not sophosticated, but good enough to get a good guess for the average time effort
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Re: Rols grinding

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I am wondering if there would be any benefit to doing the following strategy:
In the cave with the gargoyle masters, travel to the top-right room, wait 3 minutes, and then save the game.
Then kill those 2 monsters, and quickly kill the monsters in the room to the south, and then the room to the north-west.
If no RolS, simply load the last saved game, and do it again.
Pros: you can do this about 2 times a minute, or 6 times in a 3-minute period
Cons: no leveling up and collecting potions

Would the prospect of getting the RolS faster outweigh the loss of experience/gold/potions?

I am getting tired of setting my phone down for 2+ minutes and picking it back up to do it again... most of the time I get sidetracked and 10 minutes have passed. I've been trying for the RolS for 3 weeks and only 1000 trainer kills so far.

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Re: Rols grinding

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Why not set your phone to split screen and play a bit then read a article and when you see they respawn attack them
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Re: Rols grinding

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EnvisionMan wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:03 am
I am wondering if there would be any benefit to doing the following strategy:
In the cave with the gargoyle masters, travel to the top-right room, wait 3 minutes, and then save the game.
Then kill those 2 monsters, and quickly kill the monsters in the room to the south, and then the room to the north-west.
If no RolS, simply load the last saved game, and do it again.
Pros: you can do this about 2 times a minute, or 6 times in a 3-minute period
Cons: no leveling up and collecting potions

Would the prospect of getting the RolS faster outweigh the loss of experience/gold/potions?

I am getting tired of setting my phone down for 2+ minutes and picking it back up to do it again... most of the time I get sidetracked and 10 minutes have passed. I've been trying for the RolS for 3 weeks and only 1000 trainer kills so far.
Bro I'm in permadeath mode so that strategy won't work
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Re: Rols grinding in permadeath mode

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The save-and-reload method (for original mode, not permadeath) is an old established one. An even more abbreviated version is to try to maneuver until there are as many target mobs in adjacent tiles or a step away, save, and then wipe them out in just a few seconds, to minimize the running around and maximize the kill rate. Many cycles per minute. Some love this way, some hate it.
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