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Blackwater weapons

Post by Argon of Peristalsis » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:53 am

They'd be pretty good if the Blackwater Misery could be removed.

Previously, I sold them off, but now I suspect that maybe I'll run into someone who can remove the curse. So I'm keeping one of each.

If the rumors I hear about dual-wielding in a future version are true, two of each might be better.
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Fire7051 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:36 pm

Argon of Peristalsis wrote: If the rumors I hear about dual-wielding in a future version are true, two of each might be better.
Blackwater Misery works just like shadow regeneration doesn't stack.

Man I gotta go look at the stats for those weapons again because dual weilding might make these weapons usable again. I didn't even think about that. Now even more reason to anxiously await the new update.
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Antison » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:59 am

ImageBlackwater misery
AP: 1
AC: -50%
CC: -50%
Caused by: equipping any Blackwater item.
Cure: Unequipping all Blackwater items.



1. Blackwater dagger: 3AP, 40%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1, 5%BC
2. Blackwater poisoned dagger: 3AP, 45%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1
3. Blackwater iron sword: 4AP, 50%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1, 5%BC

Factor-in the Blackwater misery & Jewel of Falhaven or Marrowtaint and here are those numbers:

1. Blackwater dagger: 4AP, -10%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1, 5%BC
2. Blackwater poisoned dagger: 4AP, -5%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1
3. Blackwater iron sword: 5AP, 0%AC, Min/Max AD:1/1, 5%BC

Now these stats alone will make most players shy away from their use, but if you include the helmet, the ring, and the armor into the equation you may change your mind.

4. Blackwater Leather Cap: 5HP, 21%BC - Note that the 5HP is tied for the most by a helmet with Valugha's Shimmering Hat which is a legendary item for which you must grind for. Meanwhile, the BLC is store bought. The 21%BC is a whopping 8% higher than the next highest BC% provided by a helmet.

5. Blackwater Armor: 25%BC, 1DR - Note that the 25%BC is matched only by the Remgard Chain Mail, but without the -7%AC
6. Blackwater Ring of Combat: AC5%, 0-7AD - Note that the 7AD is matched only by the Ring of Lesser Shadow which is a legendary item that requires you grind for. Meanwhile, the Blackwater ring is store bought.

Now factor-in these additional Blackwater misery items with the Blackwater weapons & the Jewel of Falhaven or Marrowtaint and here are those numbers:
1, 2, 3
AP: 3, 3, 4
AC: -10, -5, 0
AD: 1-8, 1-8, 3-14
BC: 56, 51, 56
DR: 1, 1, 1
HP: 5, 5, 5

Now factor in the upcoming duel-welding weapons feature coming in 0.7.0 for which I believe the AC% of both weapons gets added to your total AC%.

Now factor-in these additional Blackwater misery items with 2 of the same Blackwater weapons equipped & the Jewel of Falhaven or Marrowtaint and here are those numbers:
1, 2, 3
AP: 3, 3, 4
AC: 30, 35, 50
AD: 2-9, 2-9, 6-21
BC: 61, 51, 61
DR: 1, 1, 1
HP: 5, 5, 5

To me, these stats are pretty attractive.
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134 3/12 215 285 65-75 201 9
58  4/14 131 241 30-43 186 3
52  3/12 150 261 33-42 81  4 59  3.0 29
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Duke » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:11 am

Nice work Tek. I like all your calculations, except the AP, would be 3, 3 and then 4 for the sword, just looks like a minor typo because you state in one area, but not the others when reflecting all the equipment....I'm gonna make sure I've got them all!
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by PK17 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:43 am

I beleieve they are for sale if you side with blackwater. But they are pretty easy/quick to get from drops.
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Antison » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:46 am

PK17 wrote:I beleieve they are for sale if you side with blackwater. But they are pretty easy/quick to get from drops.
Yes

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Lv  AP   HP  AC  AD    BC DR CHS CM ECC
134 3/12 215 285 65-75 201 9
58  4/14 131 241 30-43 186 3
52  3/12 150 261 33-42 81  4 59  3.0 29
52  4/12 163 334 30-47 77  3
52  3/12 111 333 40-48 195 1
49  6/12 131 263 35-80 107 3
50  2/12 130 260 36-45 126 6

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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Fire7051 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:17 pm

Awesome work Tek! As soon as dual weilding is up and running I am going to try this out. Finally a reason to use all that Blackwater stuff!
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Pyrizzle » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:52 pm

tek wrote:
To me, these stats are pretty attractive.
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nice job Tek! You really helped by putting all the numbers together.

I didn't even think of the BW items when i was plotting out my build for V7. =)

One typo: The Ring of Lesser Shadow is Legendary not extraordinary. ;)
"6. Blackwater Ring of Combat: AC5%, 0-7AD - Note that the 7AD is matched only by the Ring of Lesser Shadow which is a extraordinary item that requires you grind for. Meanwhile, the Blackwater ring is store bought."
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Thystonius » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:37 pm

Hmm, all the more reason to side with Blackwater with my new build and try this :-) if set bonuses will be added in the future, it might be even more worth to get a full set of Blackwater equipment!
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Re: Blackwater weapons

Post by Pyrizzle » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:02 pm

Thystonius wrote:Hmm, all the more reason to side with Blackwater with my new build and try this :-) if set bonuses will be added in the future, it might be even more worth to get a full set of Blackwater equipment!
Even without a set bonus when duel wielding is added the BWM gear will be quite powerful IMO
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