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Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:38 pm
by pwen
So I restored a backedup savegame, but I only backed up the actual save game file.
When I go to my world map, all of them are gone.
Is there a way to restore these? Or most of them, even, without going to every one again?
Are the files somewhere I can just copy them into the folder in the andors_trail savegame folder and that will work?
Ive been to 487 maps
including the cool random ones
Even if I just get the main skeleton of the map back I'll go to the little places again.
Anyone?
Thanks!

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:09 pm
by Nut
Did you backup also the worldmap folder?
There are many png files, copy all of them.
If they are lost - drink something to forget...

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:43 pm
by pwen
There are many png files, copy all of them.
If they are lost - drink something to forget...
Lol. Nope. Thought I just had to copy the save file.
Thanks!
How big are these png files?
Think you could PM or email me the main road and cities?

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:39 pm
by rijackson741
You can't just get the maps from someone else. They are tagged so that you can have different characters, and they will see different worldmaps. Sorry.

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:11 pm
by CUCHULAINN3
I can send u the maps via gmail idk if it would work. Glooscap3@gmail.com

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:35 pm
by pwen
You can't just get the maps from someone else. They are tagged so that you can have different characters, and they will see different worldmaps. Sorry.
Dang. That string after the map tile name?
Wonder how that's generated...
It would make sense of it were a simple algorithm using the character name.
Do you know?
I can send u the maps via gmail idk if it would work. Glooscap3@gmail.com
Thanks anyway, bro. looks like it won't work.

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 pm
by Zukero
It may work for all, some or none.
The code at the end is a hash code of the map's layout. 2 characters on two devices may have similar maps, and thus share a thumbnail.

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:48 pm
by pwen
Oooh, let me see if I understand.
The maps are actually generated by the game when you walk into them and a thumbnail is made for your world map view of that map.

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:50 pm
by rijackson741
No. The maps are predefined, but they can change. They can only change in a way that we define though. For example, there are some trees. You cut down the trees, and they disappear. The hash keeps track of that, so that when you go back to the map the trees are either there or not there, depending on whether you cut them down.

Re: Backed up but maps gone! Ah! Help!

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:25 am
by Zukero
pwen wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:48 pm Oooh, let me see if I understand.
The maps are actually generated by the game when you walk into them and a thumbnail is made for your world map view of that map.
Just to be precise:
- A map is a game area, like a house interior, crossglen village, or the northwest of fallhaven.
- A worldmap is an overview of a collection of related maps.
- A thumbnail is an image generated when you visit a map, in order to display it on the related worldmap (when there is one).

Maps and worldmaps are fixed and predefined. Some game events can alter the layout (the look) of maps. The weird string (the layout hash) in thumbnail files is computed from the layout. When the layout changes for a map, and you visit it again, a new thumbnail with a different layout hash is generated.

Each character remembers the layout hash of every visited map, so the worldmap always shows the thumbnail matching the last visited version of the map. When one of your character has not visited a map, it will not be displayed in the worldmap.