Extraordinary and legendary items

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Tofu Ming
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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rijackson741 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:29 pm
It's random chance. Probability does not have a memory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
Nice. Probability does not have a memory. This quote should be in every gambling anonymous handbook.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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Don't you think hunters sword is a little bit... overpowerful ? I mean, I use 2 hunters sword as dual weapons, and with 265 Attack chance I basically miss 1 attack out of ten against most monsters... which makes 7 successful hits/turn !
(And when I fight against monsters with low block chance I manage to hit them 10 times per turn if they have enough HP to survive...)

Might be a good idea to rebalance this weapon uh ?

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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The negative BC balances the good. Personally I think it sucks as a weapon.
Sure the AP and AC bonus is great, but the negative BC hurts.
RoL + sharp steel rapier, or now that I am loving crits and the necklace of the undead,
Flagstone sword + DOSP. Once Way of the Monk is available on the next release I will most likely go unarmed.*Hint* for the devs please add one more Crystal so I can get Unarmed skill.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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How much the BC hurts can depend on how much you can count on getting the kill in a single round, I would think. Are you two guys getting different results on that, or just have different comfort levels with the risk when you don't?
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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JonLin wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:56 pm
The negative BC balances the good. Personally I think it sucks as a weapon.
Sure the AP and AC bonus is great, but the negative BC hurts.
:?: It doesn't have a negative BC.
JonLin wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:56 pm
RoL + sharp steel rapier, or now that I am loving crits and the necklace of the undead,
Flagstone sword + DOSP. Once Way of the Monk is available on the next release I will most likely go unarmed.*Hint* for the devs please add one more Crystal so I can get Unarmed skill.
Maybe you should have been more careful with the ones you had ;)
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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The negative BC comes when the actor condition Minor Rage is triggered. -90.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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Ah. Right. But then you get an additional 60AC, and 35HP. And the condition in non-stacking, so you cannot get it from two swords.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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True. One -90 is still worse than double -40 from dual QSD, but the offense is much better. All in all, you need to have the right build, like anything else.
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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I played with the Sword of Shadow's rage for a while. It was OK, but I went back to DoSP and a BSS. Now I use DoSP and LifeTaker.
Level:69, XP:5961483, PV:514, FQ:66
HP:224, AC:247, AD:46-58, AP:3, ECC:23%, CM:3, BC:174, DR:3
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HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1

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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items

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My big guy has Life Taker and FP, with a BSS to swap for the latter for crit immune. I have the DotSP kicking around, but haven't seen a reason to swap out for it in ages. All that will change with the new release, and I'll be starting over then anyway.
Norbert
Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6

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