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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

Post by Mino »

nyktos wrote:well said!

8-)
Mino wrote:Evasion can increase your chance of getting the first attack when coming into contact with a monster. Even though its name seems to imply something more, Dodge just increases your BC, but sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
slightly off topic, but...
should we rename Evasion?

it seems kinda silly that we haven't paid much attention to this...

as the understanding of the skill grows,
the more we see that the name is misleading.

Oskar said it himself, sometimes he needs our help with the language barriers...
i think Evasion could be renamed - does anyone else?

I think it works since the main purpose of the skill is to increase the chance to successfully escape combat. I'm not sure what name would be more fitting.

Might be time for a poll, after a few suggestions on what to change it to...
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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In regards to Evasion, as I read the skill description, I think the name works well.
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

Post by Sarumar »

Evasion works well, but personally i like more "combat reflex"..
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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Evasion makes sense to me.
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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If the primary purpose was to get in the first shot, then ”Initiative” might be a better fit. To capture the meaning of both halves of this skill, something like ”Dexterity” seems too generic to be an improvement.

Why are these two things wrapped into the same skill, anyway?
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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Tomcat wrote:If the primary purpose was to get in the first shot, then ”Initiative” might be a better fit. To capture the meaning of both halves of this skill, something like ”Dexterity” seems too generic to be an improvement.

Why are these two things wrapped into the same skill, anyway?
I believe it is called Evasion because we are trying to stay away from using too much of the terminology that D+D uses.
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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Pyrizzle wrote:
Tomcat wrote:If the primary purpose was to get in the first shot, then ”Initiative” might be a better fit. To capture the meaning of both halves of this skill, something like ”Dexterity” seems too generic to be an improvement.

Why are these two things wrapped into the same skill, anyway?
I believe it is called Evasion because we are trying to stay away from using too much of the terminology that D+D uses.
Dex isn't just too D&D, it's too generic, and D&D used it for much more than Evasion does.

But regardless, Evasion only refers to one of the two skills lumped into one. I can see that nimbleness plays into both, but the same could be said about Combat Speed, but that's a separate skill. Why divide it into two skills not three or one?
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

Post by Stompp »

If not initiative...

Aggressiveness?
Tactical Advantage?

or the flipside

Stealth
Camouflage
Charismatic Aura

Overeager adventure? LOL
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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@Mino
I looked at the stats for the upgradable shield and the BC is 11 with DR of 1. I'm sticking to my current shield until I boost my BC. As for the helmet, I did the ritual when I approached the shrine. When I went to Black Mountain, I was hoping the wizards would say something about the helmet. Oh well. Next update I guess :mrgreen:

@everyone
I was thinking of improving MC to 6, MF to 2 and getting Dodge of 2 or Evasion 2. This will be completed by level 52. Is that a good idea?I'm currently at lvl 40 and have completed all quests. I'm just grinding for my 1st rols in the gargoyle cave as I type this and afterwards grinding for levels at the giant bridge 8-)

@nyktos
I was thinking of renaming some skills:
-Magic Finder into Treasure Hunter since the skill improves the item drop rate of monsters.
-Treasure Hunter into Greed since it improves gold drops.
-Evasion into First Strike since it gives one the ability to strike opponents first and avoid them if needed.
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HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3

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*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Relatively New to the Game with a few Questions

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Pyrizzle wrote:
Tomcat wrote:If the primary purpose was to get in the first shot, then ”Initiative” might be a better fit. To capture the meaning of both halves of this skill, something like ”Dexterity” seems too generic to be an improvement.

Why are these two things wrapped into the same skill, anyway?
I believe it is called Evasion because we are trying to stay away from using too much of the terminology that D+D uses.
I loved D&D! I played for several years until my DM moved to another city :D Those were the days :mrgreen:
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3

UPDATED: 02/01/2014

*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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