Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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hmm... lord Geomyr is against heartsteel ? ... perhaps becauce it is lethal to humans...
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Sarumar wrote:hmm... lord Geomyr is against heartsteel ? ... perhaps becauce it is lethal to humans...
Or that it's lethal to demon types, and he's either in league with the demon type baddies, or he's even one of them himself, in human form? ;)

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Perhaps Lord Geomer wants to take over? In order to do that, you first must effectively disarm the population, thus banning Heartsteal and bonemeal potions!
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Why demons, rather than some other type?

I mean, it would be nice to have a better weapon against crit immune, but I think there should be a thematic reason. Do you have one?
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Tomcat wrote:Why demons, rather than some other type?

I mean, it would be nice to have a better weapon against crit immune, but I think there should be a thematic reason. Do you have one?
Heartsteal is a new thing, I've never heard of it before. It seems rare and valuable, and thus I think it should have some unique properties. Maybe even sacred.

"Heartsteal is unique because it uses the very rare Heartsteal ore, said to come directly from the heart of the earth itself, and it's purity is unrivaled amongst ores - save for that of Silvanum. Heartsteal - due to it's elemental purity - is bane to extra planar creatures, but is very difficult to find and even more difficult to smithy. Deep blue-green in color, smithying it remains a closely guarded secret passed on from Master Smithy to apprentice, only a select few now know the secret method to transform this wondrous element into marshall weapons and armor."
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I don't think we can refer to mithril without paying the Tolkien estate, but I like the rest of the description
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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... heartsteel... hmm ... i have hear some whispers about those dark rituals which is needed for making some... do you know that heartsteal weapon are tempered in humans blood istead of oil or other chemicals....

Yes i would be proud to own one of those masterpieces :twisted:
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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According to a google search and this link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_word_m ... ected_word

Mithril & other individual words cannot be copyrighted. So I think we could use Mithril in-game.
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Tulkas wrote:According to a google search and this link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_word_m ... ected_word

Mithril & other individual words cannot be copyrighted. So I think we could use Mithril in-game.
Interesting, and good to know ... thanks for looking that up, Tulkas!

However as a fan of both AT and Tolkien, I'd hate to see Tolkien references or other specific fantasy references in the game. Make it our world, not someone else's.
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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Tomcat wrote:
Tulkas wrote:According to a google search and this link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_word_m ... ected_word

Mithril & other individual words cannot be copyrighted. So I think we could use Mithril in-game.
Interesting, and good to know ... thanks for looking that up, Tulkas!

However as a fan of both AT and Tolkien, I'd hate to see Tolkien references or other specific fantasy references in the game. Make it our world, not someone else's.
I agree about making Andor's Trail a unique world, but the idea behind Mithril had really transcended Tolkien's realm and become a mainstay in almost all fantasy type worlds. I'd love for Mithril to also be in the game and have that be especially effective vs the undead.

*****EDIT****** CHANGED MITHRIL TO SILVANUM
"Silvanum, nearly as rare as Heartsteal, is especially effective at battling the undead. Not as hard to work with as Heartsteal, but still exceptionally effective when made into weapons and armor. Nobody is quite sure why Silvanum is so effective at banishing the undead, most are too happy to see the fearsome enemies quail at the sight of a warrior brandishing such equipment. It's radiance is unrivaled amongst any other metals, as light as tin, and incredibly strong."
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Re: Heartsteal Should Get a Bonus vs Demons & Their Ilk

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What about weapons forged from Heartsteel having something like a % point chance causing a fatal wound per hit. Say 20% so as not to overpower. Armour with a high BC but no reduction in AC. Or reducing the chance of you being inflicted by criticals. Nothing wrong with a bonus against Demons but there could be other all round useful benefits.
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