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Extraordinary and legendary items
- sorrow
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
It took me over 4k in kills for a rols and mf barely works you need atleast 20 sp in mf to see it work
Sorrow
Lvl:80 XP:9214038 Gold:1mil Hp:243 AC:301 Ad:28-49 Ch:21 Cm:2.0 Ecc:15 BC:148 Dr:3
skills:
WA:2. HH:2. CS:2. TH:2 QL:2 IF:2 REG:2 MF:5 DBS:1 2HSP:1 LAP:2 HAP:1 SREG:1
L/E
CHAR:1 ROLS:1 ELYR:1 GOLF:1 SHAF: 1
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
Thanks a lot for the info sorroy i need a little help 20 sp in mf? I dont understand sorry can you explain me? Ty
- Oet
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
20 sp in mf = 20 Skill Points in Magic Findersamael77 wrote:Thanks a lot for the info sorroy i need a little help 20 sp in mf? I dont understand sorry can you explain me? Ty
The skill says it boosts your chances of finding Magic items by 50%. That is 50% of the original drop chance. I'm not good at math, but I guess that if 1/10000 is the original drop chance, one point in Magic Finder makes it 1.5/10000
Oet:
Lvl:80|XP:9214538|AP:3|HP:291|AC:351%|AD:51-68|CHS:20|CM:0|BC:135%|DR:1
WA:1|HH:1|Do:1|CS:2|CL:1|QL:3|CE:1|IF:6|Reg:1|WP:1S:1|AP:L:1|FS:DW:2|S:DW:1
RoLS:2|ELYR:1
Last updated 22/01-14
Lvl:80|XP:9214538|AP:3|HP:291|AC:351%|AD:51-68|CHS:20|CM:0|BC:135%|DR:1
WA:1|HH:1|Do:1|CS:2|CL:1|QL:3|CE:1|IF:6|Reg:1|WP:1S:1|AP:L:1|FS:DW:2|S:DW:1
RoLS:2|ELYR:1
Last updated 22/01-14
- rijackson741
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
It's just luck. Nothing else has any effect. It's not clear from your post whether you have tried this twice, once with 1 level of MF, and once with 3 levels, or if you started with 1 level, and now have three levels. Anyway, here's the chance of getting an extraordinary or legendary item with 1 level of MF:
This table shows the number of kills required for a 90% chance of getting a legendary item, for different levels of MF: That should give you a better idea of what MF actually does for you.
Here's the chance with 3 levels of MF:
With 2500 small rocks you have about 10,000 kills, so for 1 level of MF you have been rather unlucky (there's a 20% chance of not getting a RoLS with that many kills). For 3 levels of MF, you have been very unlucky, but about 1 in 10 players with 3 levels of MF will still not have a RoLS after 10,000 kills so you are not alone.This table shows the number of kills required for a 90% chance of getting a legendary item, for different levels of MF: That should give you a better idea of what MF actually does for you.
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Level:71, XP:6493739, PV:608, FQ:84
HP:210, AC:212, AD:58-77, AP:4, ECC:16%, CM:1.5, BC:188, DR:3
Gold: 237559 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:210, AC:212, AD:58-77, AP:4, ECC:16%, CM:1.5, BC:188, DR:3
Gold: 237559 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
i have 5k+ rocks, killed more than 10k gargoyle trainers, 5k+ masters and nothing, now i quit, at least it was good to stock some potions (3.3k) so its kind of okay, its a shame that the exp is "too low", it would at least work to get me a few more lvls.
- Oet
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
Did you do all of that in one session or did you come back now and then to keep farming? Because, if it was in one session, i bow before you. Myself I did 200 rocks in one session before I wandered off for somthing else before I came back for more.shadowofice wrote:i have 5k+ rocks, killed more than 10k gargoyle trainers, 5k+ masters and nothing, now i quit, at least it was good to stock some potions (3.3k) so its kind of okay, its a shame that the exp is "too low", it would at least work to get me a few more lvls.
Oet:
Lvl:80|XP:9214538|AP:3|HP:291|AC:351%|AD:51-68|CHS:20|CM:0|BC:135%|DR:1
WA:1|HH:1|Do:1|CS:2|CL:1|QL:3|CE:1|IF:6|Reg:1|WP:1S:1|AP:L:1|FS:DW:2|S:DW:1
RoLS:2|ELYR:1
Last updated 22/01-14
Lvl:80|XP:9214538|AP:3|HP:291|AC:351%|AD:51-68|CHS:20|CM:0|BC:135%|DR:1
WA:1|HH:1|Do:1|CS:2|CL:1|QL:3|CE:1|IF:6|Reg:1|WP:1S:1|AP:L:1|FS:DW:2|S:DW:1
RoLS:2|ELYR:1
Last updated 22/01-14
- fiernaq
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
I would love to post a response here but after the 2 hour discussion I just had with my roommate on the subject of statistics... well... I'd best just let this one lie. (lie down, not lie deceive - just in case that wasn't obvious).
Level: 58, HP: 102, AC: 295%, AD: 46-56, AP: 2/12, BC: 35%, DR: 4
Gold: 75235 | RoLS: 0 RoL: 0 SRoV: 0 VSH: 0
Skills: IF1, Ev1, Ev2, Ev3, CE1, CS1, CS2, Re1, WA1, HH1, Cl1, HH2, DaggerPro1, LightArmorPro1, ShieldPro1, WA2, Cl2
Equipment: Enhanced Combat Helmet, Serpent's Hauberk, Marrowtaint, Quickstrike Dagger, Remgard Shield, Villain's Ring, Villain's Ring, Leather Gloves Of Attack, Enhanced Combat Boots
Last Updated: 02-Dec-2013
Gold: 75235 | RoLS: 0 RoL: 0 SRoV: 0 VSH: 0
Skills: IF1, Ev1, Ev2, Ev3, CE1, CS1, CS2, Re1, WA1, HH1, Cl1, HH2, DaggerPro1, LightArmorPro1, ShieldPro1, WA2, Cl2
Equipment: Enhanced Combat Helmet, Serpent's Hauberk, Marrowtaint, Quickstrike Dagger, Remgard Shield, Villain's Ring, Villain's Ring, Leather Gloves Of Attack, Enhanced Combat Boots
Last Updated: 02-Dec-2013
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
I killed over 20 000 gargoyle trainers and masters (with 1 on mf) to get the first RoLS...
Also with the 2 characters around almost 50 000 legendary kills (half of them with 1 on mf) and got only 2 legendary items
(Based on the standard chances I should have around 6 --> with 0 on mf it means around 1/30 000 success rate)
Second character is lvl 50 with 12 000 kills and nothing.
So, believe me, you might have still quite many miles to go!
Also with the 2 characters around almost 50 000 legendary kills (half of them with 1 on mf) and got only 2 legendary items
![Sad :-(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
Second character is lvl 50 with 12 000 kills and nothing.
So, believe me, you might have still quite many miles to go!
Priaxis (retired)
Lvl 82
HP 293|AC 308%|AD 45-51|BC 118%|DR 4|AP 3
RoLS 1|ElyR 0|RoL 1|ChaR 1|GoLF 0|ShaF 1|SRoV 1|VSH 0|WMC 1| GoW 1
Elrick
Lvl 50
HP 128|AC 288%|AD 31-46|BC 62%|DR 0|AP 3
RoLS 0|ElyR 0|RoL 0
Lvl 82
HP 293|AC 308%|AD 45-51|BC 118%|DR 4|AP 3
RoLS 1|ElyR 0|RoL 1|ChaR 1|GoLF 0|ShaF 1|SRoV 1|VSH 0|WMC 1| GoW 1
Elrick
Lvl 50
HP 128|AC 288%|AD 31-46|BC 62%|DR 0|AP 3
RoLS 0|ElyR 0|RoL 0
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Re: Rols/gargoyle cave
yep, i was on there for some weeks, i even quit the game, and only played ocasionaly (still in the cave looking for it, but i was rly disappointed) and then i decided to come back to the game and just let it go.Oet wrote:Did you do all of that in one session or did you come back now and then to keep farming? Because, if it was in one session, i bow before you. Myself I did 200 rocks in one session before I wandered off for somthing else before I came back for more.shadowofice wrote:i have 5k+ rocks, killed more than 10k gargoyle trainers, 5k+ masters and nothing, now i quit, at least it was good to stock some potions (3.3k) so its kind of okay, its a shame that the exp is "too low", it would at least work to get me a few more lvls.
- SkrikRunkarN
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Re: Extraordinary and legendary items
not to be rude, but for you people that complains alot about the "low droprate", I agree with you but if you got the patience you could just hunt when you want to waste time (don't take the hunting for RoLS for example, too seruoisly) -AND SUDDENLY YOU FIND RoLS, I got 2x RoLS at my lvl 65 character..and no points into MF, I consider it as a quite useless skill. But that's just my opinion! ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
cheers!~
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cheers!~
WA:3/HH:3/CE:2/IF:5/EV:2/CS:2 ~ MP6/AP3/AC176%/AD74-85/BC15%/DR1 ~ RoLS:2 (179/1451 stone)/ShaF:2/ChaR:6
Patient L86
WA:3/CS:2/QL:3/IF:1/EV:2/RJ:1 ~ MP4/AP2/AC224%/AD92-98/BC-21% ~ RoLS:2/ ShaF/ChaR/VSH/SroV:4
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