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Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:06 pm
by Konizooka
Pyrizzle wrote:The whole Kazaul group gives me the creeps.

Kinda worried for the safety of everyone on or near the Black Water Mountain area...

"Kazaul, destroyer of bright dreams"
"Kazaul, defiler of the Elytharan Temple"

:shock:
They have all those weird Wrym things protecting them, those people are pretty safe up there.. And somehow I always think those BWM people indulge in all sorts of black magic and stuff to keep the monsters pleased.

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:33 pm
by Antison
Konizooka wrote:
Pyrizzle wrote:The whole Kazaul group gives me the creeps.

Kinda worried for the safety of everyone on or near the Black Water Mountain area...

"Kazaul, destroyer of bright dreams"
"Kazaul, defiler of the Elytharan Temple"

:shock:
They have all those weird Wrym things protecting them, those people are pretty safe up there.. And somehow I always think those BWM people indulge in all sorts of black magic and stuff to keep the monsters pleased.
nope you are confused. The wrym protect elytharan

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:17 pm
by nyktos
tek wrote:
Konizooka wrote:
Pyrizzle wrote:The whole Kazaul group gives me the creeps.

Kinda worried for the safety of everyone on or near the Black Water Mountain area...

"Kazaul, destroyer of bright dreams"
"Kazaul, defiler of the Elytharan Temple"

:shock:
They have all those weird Wrym things protecting them, those people are pretty safe up there.. And somehow I always think those BWM people indulge in all sorts of black magic and stuff to keep the monsters pleased.
nope you are confused. The wrym protect elytharan
@tek - they do? are you saying this because they drop Redeemers? [ElyR - Legendary Item]
i would think that followers of Elythara would shun using undead as soliders...
snake, wyrm & gargoyle trainers have all been undead.

and the one that did actually talk to us, seemed more than "a little" nefarious...

:lol:

@ Koni - i agree, they all seemed a little "on edge" up there on the mountain (more so than Prim did)
and the classrooms with Pentagrams? hahaha... my hero wants to enroll!!!

:twisted:

anyway, that's the beauty of the story...
there is no solid Black & White - no clear cut good guys or bad guys...
just differences in opinions & motivations.

[Oskar's epic quote - "What makes people do what they do?"]

LOVE IT!!!

:D


Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:03 pm
by Konizooka
nyktos wrote: @ Koni - i agree, they all seemed a little "on edge" up there on the mountain (more so than Prim did)
and the classrooms with Pentagrams? hahaha... my hero wants to enroll!!!

:twisted:
I know right! They are all so suspicious and creepy.. and their's was the hardest location to reach! I mean, if they didn't have something to hide, why would they need so much protection and secrecy! :shock: :evil:
nyktos wrote: anyway, that's the beauty of the story...
there is no solid Black & White - no clear cut good guys or bad guys...
just differences in opinions & motivations.

[Oskar's epic quote - "What makes people do what they do?"]

LOVE IT!!!

:D

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I think sometimes opinions can also be dominated or turned.. There is afterall such a thing as a Wrong opinion and motivation..

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:32 am
by Pyrizzle
People sometimes do horrible things for what they think is the right reason.

Happens in history the time.

Doesn't excuse the fact that it is still morally wrong.

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:34 am
by nyktos
i.e: Christian Crusades?

:shock:

*shakes his head*

sad times my friends...


Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:43 am
by Pyrizzle
nyktos wrote: i.e: Christian Crusades?
:shock:
*shakes his head*
sad times my friends...
That is one good example.

The Nazi human experimentation is another one. Expecially the Twin experiments (just thinking about it gives me the heebie jeebies)

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:10 am
by Konizooka
Pyrizzle wrote: That is one good example.

The Nazi human experimentation is another one. Expecially the Twin experiments (just thinking about it gives me the heebie jeebies)
I just read about this after reading your post.. I was literally on the verge of tears after reading about some of the experiments! :( :cry: I can't believe a human being could do this to another humans..

I can understand people defending the Christian Crusades, but this is some seriously disturbing stuff.. It creeps the soul out of u just reading about it.. Is there anyone who actually tries Justifying these experiments and stuff? :evil: :evil: :evil:

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:03 am
by Pyrizzle
Koni: I'm gonna keep this short and sweet befor setting this thread back on topic.

A lot of the doctors when being brought to trial said it was done for the good of the human race or that they did it because they were ordered too.

There was some very upsetting things that were done to people in the name of science, some of the tests they did dealing with the human bodies ability to deal with pressure differentials have been very useful for airforce (and nasa), but the way they went about doing it was just aweful. They also did test on the bodies ability to deal with hot and cold and many other monstrosities.

Ending this discussion now and getting back on topic. Feel free to PM me if you want to continue this conversation
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Topic: GOOD AND EVIL in AT.

What is and what isnt?

Re: Good & Evil

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:11 pm
by Konizooka
They should introduce fighting with the Feygard guards in the taverns. Sometimes when I bump into those guards, I (My character, who hates them, not me!) just have a terrible urge to pick a fight with them, just out of fun.

It could be like you bump into one of them, and be rude to him. And drunk that they always are, they start a fight. After killing them u get some of the loot (food/cheap weapons/gear/gold) that was on the guards.