item categorization

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Orkluss
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Re: item categorization

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Hi there, thx for the work you have done till yet!

I was looking for a post because i wouldnt do a doublepost, get it. ;-)

Ok, for the start it would be nice the new items and the changed items go to the top of the list... so much problems are then allready solved.

Sry for bad english :-)
Thx and have a nice day
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Re: item categorization

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Orkluss wrote:Hi there, thx for the work you have done till yet!

I was looking for a post because i wouldnt do a doublepost, get it. ;-)

Ok, for the start it would be nice the new items and the changed items go to the top of the list... so much problems are then allready solved.

Sry for bad english :-)
Thx and have a nice day
I'm not so sure because I was thinking about a list sorting by the alphabet. But we could add a small "New" label to the item like in Instant Buttons.

Would that be a good solution?
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Re: item categorization

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I still like the idea of creating drop menus for the different categories

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Re: item categorization

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sorrow wrote:I still like the idea of creating drop menus for the different categories
Do you mean the player can define his own categories? Sry, if I may have misunderstood you.
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Re: item categorization

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I think sorrow meant something like tabs where each tab contains a category. The problem with that, however, is when we get too many tabs. In other words, you'd have to limit the number of tabs to major categories only and then allow the player to move the tabs around to set the order they appear in. For example, you could have one tab entirely dedicated to New Items (stuff that wasn't in your inventory the last time you checked). One tab for Consumables (potions, food, etc...). One tab for Equipment (weapons, armor, rings, trinkets, etc. with a grouping at the top of that tab to show legendary/extraordinary items followed by regular items). One tab for General (where everything not part of one of the other tabs goes). By keeping it to 4-5 tabs you don't overload sideways but you still enable much better sorting of what you have without the player having to manually sort stuff.
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Re: item categorization

Post by Mayweed »

Instead of tabs:

What about a tree menu with categories as main nodes and fitting items as subnodes, like in the quests tree?

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+---------+
| armours |
+---------+

+---------+
| weapons |
+---------+
   -> club
   -> dagger
   -> sword

+---------+
| shields |
+---------+

+---------+
| potions |
+---------+

Click on a category node to unfold the associated item list, select the desired item, click the category again to fold it, click another category and so on.
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Re: item categorization

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Mayweed wrote:Instead of tabs:

What about a tree menu with categories as main nodes and fitting items as subnodes, like in the quests tree?

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+---------+
| armours |
+---------+

+---------+
| weapons |
+---------+
   -> club
   -> dagger
   -> sword

+---------+
| shields |
+---------+

+---------+
| potions |
+---------+

Click on a category node to unfold the associated item list, select the desired item, click the category again to fold it, click another category and so on.
+1 looks nice and easy to use too!
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Re: item categorization

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Mayweed wrote:Instead of tabs:

What about a tree menu with categories as main nodes and fitting items as subnodes, like in the quests tree?

Click on a category node to unfold the associated item list, select the desired item, click the category again to fold it, click another category and so on.
Tree Menu
Step 1: Open Inventory
Step 2: Open Tree
Step 3: Choose Item

Tab Menu
Step 1: Open Inventory
Step 2: Choose Item (if the item is on the tab you set as default), if not then Open Tab
Step 3: Choose Item

I'm still looking for a system that beats either of these by making it the same 2 step process it is currently. The only real problem with the current system is that you can't find stuff. What about just implementing a default sort order that groups things but still leaves everything on the main inventory screen? For example, instead of your inventory looking like this:

Bar Brawler's Boots
Claws
Minor vial of health
Ring of Lesser Shadow
Weak poison
Blackwater poisoned dagger
Insect wing
Small rock
Mundane ring
Polished gem

It would default to a sort order that looks like this:

That item that you just picked up
Other stuff you haven't seen in your inventory yet
Potions/Consumables
Legendary/Extraordinary/Rare items
Equipment
Quest related items
Miscellaneous junk

In other words, let's say you just picked up the Small Rock and Polished Gem... that would put the above listed inventory at this:

Small rock
Polished gem
Minor vial of health
Weak poison
Ring of Lesser Shadow
Blackwater poisoned dagger
Bar Brawler's Boots
Mundane ring
Claws
Insect wing

No tabs, no tree... just an automatically sorted inventory.
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Re: item categorization

Post by sorrow »

That can get confusing to fast. What I was thinking is you open your inventory and instead of having all your items mixed together (as it is now) there would be 4 drop menus
1.weapons
2.armor and jewelry
3. Consume-ables.
4.general (I.e gems fur ect)

And in every menu all the item are in alphabetical order.

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Re: item categorization

Post by Orkluss »

what sort of item do you need?
- weapon change (-> QSD vs. RoL vs Criticaly items)
- consume something (potion, met,...)
- change armory

how the list have to sort:
->new items on top of the list (armor, weapon, consumables)
->gear you change on top of the list
->items you allready have doesent count to new items rest on normal position

if you made buttons, i would prefere:
All - Weapon - Armor - Consumable

legendary and rare items have to show all times a pop up, if they drop. :-D
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