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magic finder
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Magic finder
I'm not that good at math but i wonder, how many skill points invested in magic finder would grant you a good chance for the RoLs?(about 10-25%)?
HP: 666 (I wonder is "The Shadow" met the Devil yet)
Lvl: 258, XP: 3542010, Gold: 2147429, RoLS: 1, ElyR: 1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 0, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 0, VSH: 0, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
AC: 378%, AD: 102-105, AP: 3, ECC: 100%, CM: 4.5, BC: 300%, DR: 0
Lvl: 258, XP: 3542010, Gold: 2147429, RoLS: 1, ElyR: 1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 0, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 0, VSH: 0, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
AC: 378%, AD: 102-105, AP: 3, ECC: 100%, CM: 4.5, BC: 300%, DR: 0
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Re: Magic finder
There are other threads on this topic. There is no need to start a new one.
"A home without a beagle is just a house"
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Re: magic finder
GOW is a gem. And I believe saru got it
Sorrow
Lvl:80 XP:9214038 Gold:1mil Hp:243 AC:301 Ad:28-49 Ch:21 Cm:2.0 Ecc:15 BC:148 Dr:3
skills:
WA:2. HH:2. CS:2. TH:2 QL:2 IF:2 REG:2 MF:5 DBS:1 2HSP:1 LAP:2 HAP:1 SREG:1
L/E
CHAR:1 ROLS:1 ELYR:1 GOLF:1 SHAF: 1
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Re: Magic finder
i know that one, but i'm not asking for how much does it improve per skill points, i'm asking directly how many would you need to have a good chance to get it (at least 10%)
I'm only expecting some to say the number .
I'm only expecting some to say the number .
HP: 666 (I wonder is "The Shadow" met the Devil yet)
Lvl: 258, XP: 3542010, Gold: 2147429, RoLS: 1, ElyR: 1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 0, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 0, VSH: 0, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
AC: 378%, AD: 102-105, AP: 3, ECC: 100%, CM: 4.5, BC: 300%, DR: 0
Lvl: 258, XP: 3542010, Gold: 2147429, RoLS: 1, ElyR: 1, RoL: 0, ChaR: 0, GoLF: 0, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 0, VSH: 0, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
AC: 378%, AD: 102-105, AP: 3, ECC: 100%, CM: 4.5, BC: 300%, DR: 0
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Re: magic finder
Truesorrow wrote:GOW is a gem. And I believe saru got it
Sarumar
..dansing left foot polka with Hirathil
Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
..dansing left foot polka with Hirathil
Lvl 313|XP 559721474|Gold 7965188|AP 3/12|AC 516|AD 161-175|ECC 48|CM 6|BC 311|HP 591|DR 2|RoLS 3|RoL 2|ElyR 2|ChaR 45|GoLF 3|ShaF 9|SRoV 28|VSH 13|GoW 1|WMC 1
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Re: Magic finder
Antison wrote:There are other threads on this topic. There is no need to start a new one.
i don't care if it's posted in the wrong section - help the new member out?
don't just flag it & let it sit there...
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i would want answers & help if i just loaded the game.
i would not want to read 50,000 threads in some random hope of finding an answer.
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stop being such an elitest and just help someone - instead of flagging it.
jesus.
we are tying to spread love for the game, not act like jerks because we know more about it.
"Embrace the Shadow"
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
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Re: Magic finder
DeltaKnight wrote:i know that one, but i'm not asking for how much does it improve per skill points, i'm asking directly how many would you need to have a good chance to get it (at least 10%)
I'm only expecting some to say the number .
sure man!
welcome to the boards!!!
(i may have said that before?)
give me a few moments & i will find the proper numbers you're looking for!
(if i don't come back soon - it's because i'm always insanely busy)
but, rest assured - if i don't answer / the community WILL!!!
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Reason: yes, this thread needs to be moved & it will be after it's read.
Reason: yes, this thread needs to be moved & it will be after it's read.
"Embrace the Shadow"
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
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Re: Magic finder
I'm not sure exactly, but I'm certain it'd take at least several hundred skill points into magic finder for you to get "a good chance" of finding the RoL. 12%chance? From the original 0.01% chance? Well, I don't know exactly, but I'm certain nobody's ever going to use that much skill points onto magic finder just to find an RoL; by the time you got the skill points needed to do so, you'd be far beyond Sarumar's level...
But let's take some calculations.
Each point in magic finder increases your chance of finding non-ordinary items by 50% of the original chance.
Therefore, 1 point in magic finder = 0.015% chance.
2 points in magic finder = 0.02% chance.
..... and so on, and so on, and so on...
By the time you reach your targeted chance (12% chance) you should be at about: 12 divided by 0.005 = 2395 points in magic finder. That's more skill points than Sarumar has in levels .
However, alternatively, if you interpret magic finder differently, that it is compounded:
1 point in magic finder will still mean 0.015% chance.
but 2 points in magic finder will mean 0.0225% chance.
3 points will mean 0.03375% chance... and so on.... and so on... and so on.
Your target, 12% chance, is still a long way off, but it is far easier (if still impossible in one lifetime) to attain.
By the 18th point in magic finder, your chance of finding an item should be:
14.7789188......% chance.
To get 18 skill points still requires 72 levels, however, and that's assuming you never put skill points in anything else as well as magic finder may be compounded. I'm thinking it is not compounded, but I have no proof of that.
Edit: Added calculation methods:
For method 1:
(12 -0.01) divided by (0.01*0.5)
For method 2:
I had to use trial-and-error to get to the right amount:
(0.01)*1.5^(18)=14.7789188......
But let's take some calculations.
Each point in magic finder increases your chance of finding non-ordinary items by 50% of the original chance.
Therefore, 1 point in magic finder = 0.015% chance.
2 points in magic finder = 0.02% chance.
..... and so on, and so on, and so on...
By the time you reach your targeted chance (12% chance) you should be at about: 12 divided by 0.005 = 2395 points in magic finder. That's more skill points than Sarumar has in levels .
However, alternatively, if you interpret magic finder differently, that it is compounded:
1 point in magic finder will still mean 0.015% chance.
but 2 points in magic finder will mean 0.0225% chance.
3 points will mean 0.03375% chance... and so on.... and so on... and so on.
Your target, 12% chance, is still a long way off, but it is far easier (if still impossible in one lifetime) to attain.
By the 18th point in magic finder, your chance of finding an item should be:
14.7789188......% chance.
To get 18 skill points still requires 72 levels, however, and that's assuming you never put skill points in anything else as well as magic finder may be compounded. I'm thinking it is not compounded, but I have no proof of that.
Edit: Added calculation methods:
For method 1:
(12 -0.01) divided by (0.01*0.5)
For method 2:
I had to use trial-and-error to get to the right amount:
(0.01)*1.5^(18)=14.7789188......
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Re: magic finder
So, just a gem? No stats? Just something for a later quest? Or just another something for the collection... I feel like I would be a fool to give up now, but darn, I am WAAAAAAAY past what my average should have been, by a few mmultiples... Are we sure it is extraordinary, and not legendary? .lol.
LVL: 56, HP: 77, EXP: 3140223, AP: 3/12
AC: 255%, AD: 51-65, C.HIT: 54, C.Multi: 3.0, ECC: 27%, BC:40%
RoLS: 2 RoL: 1 GoLF: 1 ShaF: 1 <~~~ Look at my tiny collection
The criticals come often, and hit HARD!
AC: 255%, AD: 51-65, C.HIT: 54, C.Multi: 3.0, ECC: 27%, BC:40%
RoLS: 2 RoL: 1 GoLF: 1 ShaF: 1 <~~~ Look at my tiny collection
The criticals come often, and hit HARD!
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Re: magic finder
Yeah just a gem
Sorrow
Lvl:80 XP:9214038 Gold:1mil Hp:243 AC:301 Ad:28-49 Ch:21 Cm:2.0 Ecc:15 BC:148 Dr:3
skills:
WA:2. HH:2. CS:2. TH:2 QL:2 IF:2 REG:2 MF:5 DBS:1 2HSP:1 LAP:2 HAP:1 SREG:1
L/E
CHAR:1 ROLS:1 ELYR:1 GOLF:1 SHAF: 1