Andor's Trail

Hello Cali Mori, and welcome to the forums.

Superior necklace of the protector for BC and DR. It's a better investment over marrowtaint.
Undead necklace is equally great but the regeneration effect creates a bit of a lag, which results in a reduced performance with a slow frame rate. I had complained about it. The issue still persists.

Osho wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:39 am Superior necklace of the protector for BC and DR. It's a better investment over marrowtaint.

This is laughable to say the least. Marrowtaint is hands down the best item in the game. Nevermind the best necklace.

Perfect. When there are different opinions about which item is best, then we have achieved our goal to have it balanced
There should be no must-have item for every build.

There are builds that don't need Morowtaint, or even JoF. Thus, as Osho said, the Superior necklace of protector will be more useful. In fact, Morrowtaint and JoF are useless in this build. How? Make a build that uses any weapon with 6 AP Cost, and get Combat Speed Lvl 2.

Yes, Soullessktty, that is true. I do have 1 build centrally focused on the necklace of the undead, another that uses it and the Great axe of shattered hope that switched to the necklace after it was introduced. All of my other builds use Marrowtaint. And that is about 13 builds.

Antison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:47 am

Osho wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:39 am Superior necklace of the protector for BC and DR. It's a better investment over marrowtaint.

This is laughable to say the least. Marrowtaint is hands down the best item in the game. Nevermind the best necklace.

I didn't mean to say that superior necklace was the best but as an investment it was the most useful to me. The only time I use marrowtaint is when I want the benefit of AP.

Antison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:47 am

Osho wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:39 am Superior necklace of the protector for BC and DR. It's a better investment over marrowtaint.

This is laughable to say the least. Marrowtaint is hands down the best item in the game. Nevermind the best necklace.

Ring of Lesser Shadow would like to have a word.

Talvyen1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:15 am

Antison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:47 am

Osho wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:39 am Superior necklace of the protector for BC and DR. It's a better investment over marrowtaint.

This is laughable to say the least. Marrowtaint is hands down the best item in the game. Nevermind the best necklace.

Ring of Lesser Shadow would like to have a word.

agree, Rols gives 1 hp healed every round, which is extremely strong that even overcome the skill "Regeneration" and makes health potion less important, saving tones of gold

also, it gives 25 ac and 4 base damage (already 9lv buff !), regardless providing some bc and critical skill

so Marrowtaint is not the "best", but can be "one of the best", as Rols and bonemeal potions are also strong items .

however, when talking about necklaces, Marrowtaint is regardless the best in late game (for builds with 3 or 4 base attack cost, like dagger and monk, if 5 or higher, necklace of the protector is better)

necklace of the protector may better in early game as it helps beginning character against the early monster with less hp consumed

Put it this way, would you rather have RoLS and JoF, or Marrowtaint and Ring of the Protector?

My answer is the latter. Especially considering the grind required to get a RoLS. 99.99% of the time you want one of these two necklaces as you want to reduce your AP attack cost. Now consider the additional attack and block chances that the Marrowtaint provides. As well as the HP.