Andor's Trail

IMHO Cleave is *meh*... I'd rather max out the Pro skills and a few others before getting that one.

Cleave isn't meh, the pro skills are meh for my build. I don't miss much, I already have significant DR. When getting swarmed with bats and ghosts who crit a lot, cleave is powerful and nice. I will get SP lvl 2 for 10 DR then cleave 2, in between IF. But since I am still trying to get RoL, that will take a long time 1k xp per spawn...

I told myself I can't start a new character until I get all the legendary and extraordinary items, so I'm still using my original character (yes I only have 1). I love the dual wield (level 2) with the dagger of shadow priests and the blade of the defiler. I have one point in dagger proficiency which helps. I have 2 combat speed points and marrowtaint so I get 4 swings per round with my double daggers and at this point there isn't really any enemy I can't kill in one round (aside from the new boss, he took a few rounds). I have 2 points in corpse eater, so along with blade of the defiler I get between 2 - 5 HP per kill, plus I have ROLS so I get 1 HP per round from that. Aside from having to use a random potion here or there going to see Lodar, I basically dice up anything that looks at me funny and keep rolling. Gonna keep pumping up my daggers until my guy is a one hit wonder. Happy huntings folks.

Lvl 69|XP 5,994,652|$ 153,246 |2013.08.02
HP 116|AC 287%|AD 43-55|AP 3|ECC 34%|CM 3.0|BC 55%|DR 4|SR
RoLS 1|ElyR 0|RoL 0|ChaR 1|GoLF 1|ShaF 1|SRoV 4|VSH 1|WMC 0|GoW 0
WA 1|HH 1|MC 3|CS 2|QL 2|CE 2|IF 1|MF 3|DP 1|LAP 1|DW 2|

Thystonius wrote:Cleave isn't meh, the pro skills are meh for my build. I don't miss much, I already have significant DR. When getting swarmed with bats and ghosts who crit a lot, cleave is powerful and nice. I will get SP lvl 2 for 10 DR then cleave 2, in between IF. But since I am still trying to get RoL, that will take a long time 1k xp per spawn...

Weapons Pro < Armor Pro

I'd rather put the skill points into the armor pros that the weapon pros. The Armor Pros add a boatload of BC for the very little amount of Skill Points you have to add.

The one thing that still bugs me is having to spend Skill Points on Hard hit and Weapon Accuracy to get Cleave, i can get a bigger % boost from using the Weapons or Armor Pros than using these skills.

Agree to disagree? (I am a Capricorn and am quite stubborn sometimes)

I'm waiting for my second skill point in "Dual-wield" before going with 2 Daggers of the Shadow Priests. My build is very ECC-AD oriented, but I want my AC to stay at 3.

For those wondering, yes, I have 2 DotSP, as well as many extra quest items. Some NPCs respawned here and there (sometimes after an upgrade, sometimes not). I also have 2 stone cuirasses, 2 spare parts of vacor spell, Luthor's key, Guthbered's ring, and 7 pieces of Tinlyn's sheeps meat, and then some that I don't recall if part of future quests, or spare.

Zukero wrote:I'm waiting for my second skill point in "Dual-wield" before going with 2 Daggers of the Shadow Priests. My build is very ECC-AD oriented, but I want my AC to stay at 3.

For those wondering, yes, I have 2 DotSP, as well as many extra quest items. Some NPCs respawned here and there (sometimes after an upgrade, sometimes not). I also have 2 stone cuirasses, 2 spare parts of vacor spell, Luthor's key, Guthbered's ring, and 7 pieces of Tinlyn's sheeps meat, and then some that I don't recall if part of future quests, or spare.

One of my build have 12 Oegyth crystal, etc.. Bug commonly know here in the forum as an "map error" is the reason why this is possible.

I may duel weild depending if my new quest/item from the quest gets put into the game. I think all duel weilders will want it.

Zukero wrote:I'm waiting for my second skill point in "Dual-wield" before going with 2 Daggers of the Shadow Priests. My build is very ECC-AD oriented, but I want my AC to stay at 3.

For those wondering, yes, I have 2 DotSP, as well as many extra quest items. Some NPCs respawned here and there (sometimes after an upgrade, sometimes not). I also have 2 stone cuirasses, 2 spare parts of vacor spell, Luthor's key, Guthbered's ring, and 7 pieces of Tinlyn's sheeps meat, and then some that I don't recall if part of future quests, or spare.

My main/original build has 2 DoSP as well, but I refuse to dual wield them as I feel that that is cheating. But hay, I'm not judging you.

Zukero wrote:I'm waiting for my second skill point in "Dual-wield" before going with 2 Daggers of the Shadow Priests. My build is very ECC-AD oriented, but I want my AC to stay at 3.

For those wondering, yes, I have 2 DotSP, as well as many extra quest items. Some NPCs respawned here and there (sometimes after an upgrade, sometimes not). I also have 2 stone cuirasses, 2 spare parts of vacor spell, Luthor's key, Guthbered's ring, and 7 pieces of Tinlyn's sheeps meat, and then some that I don't recall if part of future quests, or spare.

Wow! That is quite amazing that you have so many extras of the quest items...

Being able to use 2 DotSP would be epically overpowered!

Let's agree to disagree Pyrizzle, no problem at all!

I love the new skills as well, it just turns out cleave is a skill that benefits my character more in swarming, crithitting areas than more AC, BC and DR. But since I am loving DR, I max out SP next level. Think I will leave my RoL hunt a bit and go get a ChaR, the xp is so much better there and I still need a lot more skillpoints... RoL can wait since I am a dagger wielding crithitting shieldhugging gooddoing guy, who needs rapiers... I don't need no healing power, nearly nothing damages me anyways

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EDIT: why does Dagger Proficiency add 30% of BC of the original item? All the daggers and shortswords I checked add no or negative BC... this is imho quite useless. I know for sure I won't level this skill up, other skills are more powerful