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Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:14 pm
by Unocathillious
If you read my post I just put on the Elytharan Redeemer, I would have to say Magic Finder is useless. Combined with your grinding, you will gain more levels, which means more stats, more skills points and more anything depending what your skilled. Eventually, you get what your trying to get. Your just increasing inevitability, I feel with Magic Finder. Specifically the time your spending to get the item. Which with no further updates happening as of over a year now. Idk what your going to accomplish by rushing an item in a few days. Or.. having it take a week and gained so much more everything in the mean time.

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:25 pm
by Lunaticbpsf
Hunting for Legendaries will not prove a difference with MF, but certainly with Extraordinary and Rare.
It is true that if you just have the patience to grind and grind until you get a desired item, it won't make a huge difference in obtaining them (unless you spend at least 6-8 points). It is all a matter of how you prefer to play.
Yes, Magic Finder does work, but if you prefer to grind for the additional xp, then do so.
I've put two points in the skill and am happy with the decision. I've managed to get all grinding items in no time (and will keep grinding Gems of Warmth), and I thank MF for that. I do not have much time for the game (being a student and a teacher in a few areas consumes a lot of time), so I prefer the satisfaction of obtaining the items until the next release and new items.

So, it's all just a matter of taste and preferred gaming-style!

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:25 pm
by Unocathillious
In your case even more contradiction to what you just said... First of all Gem of Warmth actually is a rare or extraordinary item. Magic Finder for GOW doesn't work AT ALL. Useless for the Gem.

Second.. if your saying it's only used for Extraordinary and Rare items... that's only like a matter of 30 minutes, down to 15 minutes.. and as far as I can see and am concerned. I doubt by the end of the day TODAY, Oskar drops new release and content and other accessories to farm/obtain.

I do agree it's preference of style and play, but for everything but legendary items. The time for obtaining is so low, so low.. I don't see it worth it at all. Not even 1 point in Magic Finder.

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:28 pm
by Unocathillious
I'm not arguing or disagreeing to what your saying I agree btw. Yeah just checked, Gem of Warmth doesn't count for MF.

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:22 pm
by Lunaticbpsf
There's no contradictive statement.
The mechanics of MF do work, but seeing as the odds are so low just a few points will not make a significant alteration to your real chance when it comes to Legendaries. Many points will make a difference.
But, as you stated, MF is not at all needed in terms of obtaining the items - it will simply improve your odds and perhaps save you some time.

Regarding Rare and Extraordinary, my argument is that points im MF would better your gold farming (especially farming Rare items for the gold). But not much else.

The point being that the mechanics do work, but it all comes down to preferred gaming style and how much time one can spare.
If you can't spend more than a few (>30) minutes, but still desire the legendaries, it would prove useful to focus your build around MF :-)

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:19 pm
by Unocathillious
I'm talking about you saying your farming the Gem of Warmth (GoW) and you thank Magic Finder (MF) for that.. MF doesn't work for the item GoW. It is a regular item internally, same as a pair of leather boots with 3% block stats. Technically it is listed under a Extraordinary item on the forums. In game it's just a regular item, not even under rare. Therefore not affected by MF, contradicting what you said.
Lunaticbpsf wrote:Hunting for Legendaries will not prove a difference with MF, but certainly with Extraordinary and Rare.
It is true that if you just have the patience to grind and grind until you get a desired item, it won't make a huge difference in obtaining them (unless you spend at least 6-8 points). It is all a matter of how you prefer to play.
Yes, Magic Finder does work, but if you prefer to grind for the additional xp, then do so.
I've put two points in the skill and am happy with the decision. "I've managed to get all grinding items in no time (and will keep grinding Gems of Warmth), and I thank MF for that." I do not have much time for the game (being a student and a teacher in a few areas consumes a lot of time), so I prefer the satisfaction of obtaining the items until the next release and new items.

So, it's all just a matter of taste and preferred gaming-style!

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:53 pm
by Lunaticbpsf
Oh, you meant that! Then you read it wrong (not to blame you).
The parenthesis was a continuation of the piece before the comma, thusly insinuating that my grinding days are not over. I have the MF to thank for the little time it took to obtain the items.

I see what you meant, but there was no technical contradiction. I do see how it may have caused confusion, though! I should have considered rephrasing it!

I am, however, aware that the GoW is not affected by MF. But I do believe that they mentioned a fix for that in the coming update, since MF should account for all LE/EX-items.
I'm not entirely sure about that, though :-)

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:22 pm
by Zukero
Indeed the GoW was fixed to be noted as extraordinary in the next release.

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:03 pm
by Unocathillious
I did read wrong then. I'm /noob xD

Re: Does Magic Find Really Work?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:58 am
by Zukero
No you were right. Currently it just has the same drop rate as extraordinary items, but it is not boted as one. The fix is only in the dev version.