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Re: (TESTERS)Skills in V0.6.10

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from my understanding,
cleave was an idea borrowed from pen & paper / D20 games

the blow that slew your last enemy can be brought about to also strike a 2nd opponent
only useful when fighting multiple enemies,
and carrying AP over to the next battle is inexplicable.

i dont see the sense in picking it early,
on the other hand, iqhan caves (later) ...
pit you against 3 stationary mobs - making cleave very useful

the more we see the mobs defending zones wisely,
(future updates) the better cleave will feel - without major changes.

just my opinon, good post!
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Re: (TESTERS)Skills in V0.6.10

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I suppose carrying it over would have been too much, and now that I think about it, most of the time after a fight you go back to your base AP the next time you get in a fight, unless you're on speed (potion).

But you're right about it probably being useful against unavoidable mobs like the 3 in the Iqhan caves at that fence, so I might try it out later on, and also check to make sure AP farming isn't possible.
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Re: (TESTERS)Skills in V0.6.10

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i hope i didnt come across as a "know it all"
or sound preachy - only sharing thoughts...
hoping to spawn more ideas, thoughts or opinions.

i dont appreciate cleave,
but i bet Oskar adds more stuff like those 3mobs at the fence...
then i'll be all over it!

i wanna see a boss battle where his henchmen join in,
i would be missing cleave at that point...

sooo many ways to go in AT - love it!
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Re: skill

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Perhaps it should be specified that the skill points are given at the completion of level 4, 8...,as you are leveling up to 5, 9...
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Re: skill

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lady black wrote:Perhaps it should be specified that the skill points are given at the completion of level 4, 8...,as you are leveling up to 5, 9...
No its not! I am @ 91, the moment I hit 92, I get to skill-up. You hit level 4, you do not need to wait until 5 to use skill point.
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Re: (TESTERS)Skills in V0.6.10

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Chest_Rockfield wrote:Oops, I didn't know there were restrictions on Fortitude. Okay, in my opinion, new players should get to Fortitude 2 as fast as Androidily possible.
Agree, that's what I did, and currently I feel like I actually don't need any more health than I currently have at this point in the game. But that might just be my corpse eater level 4 meaning I very rarely need to use a potion. Completely removes the need for BC for me :D

Getting in on the cleave debate: I feel my current build completely negates the need for it. High health means you can tank the damage, high damage + AC means you can kill quickly.

Maybe future updates may make me want BC and a few of the other skills, but till then it's damage and perhaps some more AC... and most my skill points into QL.
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Re: skill

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Is there a disparity between those that started the game after the latest update and those that continued a character? I could see how the confusion could have come about. The new character, who would probably start as a level 1, would need to level up 4 times to 2, 3, 4, then 5 to get the skill point, while the formula for calculating the number of skill points an existing character would need was probably just written as X/4 rounded down= skill points and new skill point at multiples of 4 thereafter. This is all just a guess, but I've heard people saying both things are happening...
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Re: skill

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Level
1
2
3
4 *with skill point
5
6
7
8 * with skill point
9
10
11
12 * with skill point
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IF:2Reg:2FSDW:1

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Re: What Levels do you get Skill Points on?

Post by Mino »

Maybe the confusion is from attempting to use Increased Fortitude with the first skill point that you get at level 4, because you need to be at level 5 to activate that skill.

Also, just noticed, to use it a 2nd time, you need to be at level 20, which makes it less OP than I would have thought at first.
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HP: 241, AP: 3, AC: 562%, AD: 116-130, CM: 3.0, ECC: 38%, BC: 139%, DR: 3

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Re: What Levels do you get Skill Points on?

Post by lady black »

Okay, sorry for the wrong post. I have only gotten 1 additional skill point since my original 17, and I guess I forgot just when I got it. So for the first one, you get a "free" level, since you have only completed levels 1, 2, & 3 and get the skill point at the beginning of level 4; whereas all subsequent skill points require the completion of the intervening 4 levels: 4, 5, 6 & 7. I did not realize that.
Again, sorry. :oops:
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