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Advice for a new player

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:27 am
by Zaden99
I'm brand new to this game. Could anyone provide a bit of guidance for which skills to focus on first? I don't think I want to work on skills that increase exp or reduce exp lost on death, but rather skills that enhance my char. The skills are a little confusing as I don't fully understand the different stats in the game yet, such as AP. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Balancing a skill system

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:42 am
by Antison
Zaden99 wrote: More on topic though, I'm brand new to this game. Could anyone provide a bit of guidance for which skills to focus on first? I don't think I want to work on skills that increase exp or reduce exp lost on death, but rather skills that enhance my char. The skills are a little confusing as I don't fully understand the different stats in the game yet, such as AP. Any help would be appreciated.
You sound like you have a strategy in mind but are afraid to execute for fear of the unknown. "Combat Speed" is by far the best skill IMO. I didn't have skills available to me from the beginning and its been a while since I was that weak (1 year), but I think Regeneration and increased fortitude will help you a lot.
I think it also helps to decide if you want an offensively or defensively minded hero, or a balanced one.

Re: Balancing a skill system

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 am
by nyktos
i agree with tek - combat speed x2 (a.s.a.p.)
and personally: i like bark skin, regen & corpse eater... built up evenly.

Increased Fortitude can save you levels spent on HP,
allowing you to focus those levels on AC, AD & BC.
[you also need this skill for Regeneration]

i also advise against taking skills that raise AC, AD & BC...
EXCEPT if you are doing it to get Cleave

Criticals are VERY powerful in this game!
but my weapon of choice has none - so i never took them (crit skills)

the resistances at the bottom of the list are nice,
but i recommend waiting until your much stronger to build them.

evasion is a big question mark - something i wanna max out @ low level for insight

just some thoughts
:twisted:

Re: Balancing a skill system

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:12 am
by Zaden99
Thanks for the guidance guys. It really is an awesome game. At level 8 atm and loving it. Worked on HP for the first six levels and the last two level bonuses into AD. Seem like a good idea to keep beefing up AD? Or more into HP? Or start working on AC & BC? Thx again!

Re: Balancing a skill system

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:19 am
by nyktos
this is just me, but i build in batches...

first get my AD to 5
then AC up to 100%

AD 10
AC 125%

AD 15
AC 150%

and so on...
good to have 50-60 HP so you can make use of the best potion (bonemeal heals 40)
as for BC mine is only that high so i could take Barkskin (u need 15% BC per skill lv)

Re: Balancing a skill system

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:16 am
by Chest_Rockfield
I STRONGLY recommend Fortitude ASAP, and avoid leveling up HP unless required to get Fortitude. Fortitude has prerequisites though, so getting your Combat Speed in there early is a good plan. I also recommend not choosing better criticals over more criticals, but since you won't have access to a really good crit weapon for a bit, it's okay that you don't take these early. Regeneration is also really helpful for many reasons, those reasons being slightly different between early and late game, but all of those reasons make it a solid choice, and probably worth getting early (but not before Fortitude :D ).

So:
1. Fortitude any time you are able to level it up to at least Fortitude 2, maybe 3 if you want to be super buff in the HP department like me. (I have 4, but I did not have the luxury of taking it early like you do).
2. Regeneration or Combat Speed, depending on your weapon choice and build type.
3. More Criticals if you decide you want to murder everything in one shot. (It's nice.)

Re: Advice for a new player

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:48 am
by Zaden99
nyktos wrote:this is just me, but i build in batches...

first get my AD to 5
then AC up to 100%

AD 10
AC 125%

AD 15
AC 150%

and so on...
good to have 50-60 HP so you can make use of the best potion (bonemeal heals 40)
as for BC mine is only that high so i could take Barkskin (u need 15% BC per skill lv)
This is good stuff! Is this the AD and AC in the Combat statistics (current) section or the one below it? I'm assuming the bottom one?
Chest_Rockfield wrote:I STRONGLY recommend Fortitude ASAP, and avoid leveling up HP unless required to get Fortitude. Fortitude has prerequisites though, so getting your Combat Speed in there early is a good plan. I also recommend not choosing better criticals over more criticals, but since you won't have access to a really good crit weapon for a bit, it's okay that you don't take these early. Regeneration is also really helpful for many reasons, those reasons being slightly different between early and late game, but all of those reasons make it a solid choice, and probably worth getting early (but not before Fortitude :D ).

So:
1. Fortitude any time you are able to level it up to at least Fortitude 2, maybe 3 if you want to be super buff in the HP department like me. (I have 4, but I did not have the luxury of taking it early like you do).
2. Regeneration or Combat Speed, depending on your weapon choice and build type.
3. More Criticals if you decide you want to murder everything in one shot. (It's nice.)
Thx for this advice too! I did Fortitude first and then Regen. I think I will do regen again at 12, but I suppose I could do Fort again. Regen just seemed better for getting in longer grinds w/o having to head back to town. More crits sounds fun too. Doesn't the boss in the snake cave have a crit weapon? Venomous Dagger I think. Thats the area I'm in atm.

Re: Advice for a new player

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:35 am
by nyktos
yup, the numbers i used were base stats - no gear...

god, i need another ATA meeting...
(even this thread is geeking me out)

oh yeah, you are correct about the ven. dagger

Re: Advice for a new player

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:45 am
by Pyrizzle
Increased Fort is the best for a new player (IMO) go with that and you can consentrate on getting more AD, AC, & BC out of your levels

Re: Advice for a new player

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:19 am
by lady black
I agree with the above recommendations, with the addition that combat speed x 2 should be taken early also. That will raise your AP (action points) to 12. Each swing of your weapon costs you AP, usually 3 or 4, so 2 extra AP gives you an extra swing per turn in combat. This can literally save your (character's) life.