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invisible cloak

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:35 pm
by scottdog
What about having something like an invisible cloak that would guarantee you the first hit on a monster,could be a legendary or extraordinary drop, bc should be low for this as its not classed as armour,your thoughts on this idea !

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:58 pm
by fiernaq
Don't know about "guarantee" but I definitely like the idea of a cloak of invisibility/hiding/deception or camouflage cloak or something of that nature. My suggestion is that the item would only decrease your chances of being attacked by 20% (similar to maxed out evasion skill) that way a player could choose to grind for the item or go for the skill or if they want double they could go for both.

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:08 pm
by Sarumar
Pick 3 level of Evasion and you ger guaranteen first hit (excepht if monster moves on you). IMO nice idea for a legendary item, but the bonus should be only 10%.

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:29 pm
by nyktos
nice thread!

8-)

+1 to all

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:05 am
by Piggy the Slayer
I had one of them invisible cloaks. Put it down somewhere but can't find it.

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:26 am
by mdmedlin
I had one and unfortunately I laid it on top of my RoLS................... :(

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:50 pm
by scottdog
Well what about if you can move round freely without getting hit by any monster as obviously they won't be able to see you, but it should guarantee you the first hit ! When hitting for your first hit have your damage limited for this advantage then the rest of your hits back to normal, def make this a legendary item in my eyes as a piece of equipment like this would be worth grinding for !

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:34 pm
by fiernaq
The key is to not make a God item.

How about it decreases the likelihood that a monster will attack you first by 20% but decreases your AC by 10% as well. Not a huge negative for someone who has the stats to be able to grind for it.

But if Sarumar is right that even lvl 3 Evasion (15% decreased chance of close monster attacking first) basically guarantees you'll hit first then I don't know why you'd even need an item like this. Just grab 3 points in Evasion and you're golden.

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:58 pm
by scottdog
3 points in evasion is 12 levels if you havnt got any which I aint ,I'm not saying this equipment should be god like,far from it, its just the makings of an idea but I do stress surely if your invisible you should get an 100% first hit but like I said lower the damage inflicted,or even a quest involving the cloak, some sort of spy or similar, I just think its got the makings of a good piece of equipment if implemented rite

Re: invisible cloak

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:43 pm
by Sarumar
fiernaq wrote:The key is to not make a God item.

How about it decreases the likelihood that a monster will attack you first by 20% but decreases your AC by 10% as well. Not a huge negative for someone who has the stats to be able to grind for it.

But if Sarumar is right that even lvl 3 Evasion (15% decreased chance of close monster attacking first) basically guarantees you'll hit first then I don't know why you'd even need an item like this. Just grab 3 points in Evasion and you're golden.
Here are the explanations of evasion:
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?p=6432#p6432

So if you got 3 level of Evasion immobe enemies never attack you. I change my mind cloak of invisibility is nice idea for a legendary iyem, but the bonus to first attack should be max 5% = 33% in practice. IMO Evasion is one of the bests skills and it should be hard to get to max level.