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Monster attacks
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:57 pm
by mdmedlin
I have noticed that when I start the game, one of the monsters is a beholder. I remember from the days I used to play D&D that beholders had one main eye and 10 different eye stalks. The question I have is there anything in the code for the monsters to give them separate attacks. I know one of the attacks was a death ray and another one was a hold person attack. If we could somehow code this into the monster attacks, I think that we can come up with some mobs that will give the players fits. I think that if we can impliment this, then the doors are open for all types of new monsters that will challenge even the sturdyest of adventurers.
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:51 pm
by DarkSavant13
mdmedlin wrote:I have noticed that when I start the game, one of the monsters is a beholder. I remember from the days I used to play D&D that beholders had one main eye and 10 different eye stalks. The question I have is there anything in the code for the monsters to give them separate attacks. I know one of the attacks was a death ray and another one was a hold person attack. If we could somehow code this into the monster attacks, I think that we can come up with some mobs that will give the players fits. I think that if we can impliment this, then the doors are open for all types of new monsters that will challenge even the sturdyest of adventurers.
I could create something like that.
Back in a minute.
*edit* Well, here ya go... Doom Gazer and Doom Gazer King.
The Doom Gazer is a giant, floating eye with a scaly, grey-brown covering over 80% of it.Multiple smaller eyes sit at the ends of stalks near the top of it's "head". How it floats and propels itself around is unknown. What is known is that it's dangerous! Each of the eyes on top of it's head (from five to seven) can fire an evil of a different kind ranging from poison to lightning. And if that wasn't enough, the beasts are known to bite a man whenever it can find an, opening, with it's sharp, jagged teeth. Leading the smaller Gazers are the Doom Gazer Kings, a particularly nasty specimen. When you see these demonic beasts coming, it's best just to run, as bones litter the ground from those that have tried to fight them.
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}|};
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{dark_cleansing|1|1|20|}
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Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:02 pm
by phydeaux
It's all in what type of actor conditions you want the mob to have the ability to inflict.
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:26 pm
by Pyrizzle
I used to play D&D, I remember seeing that monster in the manuel. Scary lil bugger
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:19 pm
by DarkSavant13
Pyrizzle wrote:I used to play D&D, I remember seeing that monster in the manuel. Scary lil bugger
Yeah, it was called a Beholder. One of the nastiest creatures to come across. Personally, I would have rather fought a dragon, lol.
This Doom Gazer is like a toned down version of that. Way toned down.
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:49 pm
by nyktos
+1
don't forget mind flayers! (flairs / illithids)
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:28 pm
by DarkSavant13
nyktos wrote:+1
don't forget mind flayers! (flairs / illithids)
I could give 'em a try.
Think these are useful for populating the game with monsters?
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:12 pm
by mdmedlin
OK that sort of thing is awesome, but you have a chance to invoke each of those actor conditions with each hit. What I was talking about, is x number of hits and with each hit, a chance for a different actor condition. For instance, a beholder has a chance for an instant kill, would you want that chance to happen 10 times a round, yeah I didn't think so. I can't see anything in the content editor that allowed for separate attacks that have an actor condition chance. I think that you would have to code it so that the monster would have so many attacks and each actor condition would have to be addressed individually. Such as:
on_attack
**calculate attack chance for first attack if true check for damage and actor condition**
and you would have to do that for each and every attack. I have not looked at code for a couple of years now, ever since I got out of school, unfortunately, my current job pays more than my class mates who got their degrees in CS with me, so I didn't try to get a CS job, but keep my wrench turning job that pays more, but I digress. I could take a look at the combat code and see what I can come up with, unless one of the programmers can help a brotha out and let us know what's up.
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:20 pm
by DarkSavant13
Each actor condition (magical attack) only has a 10% chance to happen (20% for Gazer Kings), and the Gazers only have 3 attacks a round, so sure, you could have 3 magical attacks hit you at once, but it is not very likely and these creatures are not meant to be easy kills.
Besides that, each attack, naturally, has an attack chance and with that chance comes the chance to miss which means no actor conditions then either. So, you have to go through the mob's attack chance and then a roll for each actor condition in order to get hit by anything at all.
As I have just said, it's not meant to be an easy mob, and it is created the way it is on purpose. Many have said that things are too easy after a certain level so I created the Gazers for those that actually appreciate a challenge.
As far as I can see, nothing needs to be done except for you to get your character high enough level to beat them. Hehe.
Re: Monster attacks
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:34 pm
by mdmedlin
Yeah, it was something I was thinking about in a quest I had in the back of my mind as far as collecting eye stalks for an npc. But I wasn't sure about what I would do about the mobs. How can I make a kick butt monster that will strike fear into the hearts of adventurers, make those that are 100+ want to make sure they have PLENTY of bonemeal to get them through one fight, but wait, that wasn't the main boss??!!?? Bwahhhahahahhhahha. So anyway, yeah I would like there to be a slight chance of each actor condition only once a round, to make it a tiny bit fair for our intrepid adventurourourours