i am seriously considering Magic Finder on my new build,
just because i don't want to spend much time lingering around drop sites as i progress through the game...
my other skill choices were all business,
this would be just for fun...
it would be nice to snag a few luck ones along the way!
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endless grinding for leg items
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
It seems to me that unless you want to spend an awful lot of skill points on Magic Finder you can cut your lingering / grinding, but only by so much. This is the number of kills required for a 90% chance of acquiring an item:nyktos wrote: i am seriously considering Magic Finder on my new build,
just because i don't want to spend much time lingering around drop sites as i progress through the game...
So with 2 levels of Magic finder you double your chance, but to get four times the chance you need six levels of Magic finder!
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
i know i've said it a few times, but Magic Finder 2 was like hitting a sweet spot for me...
even as lucky as i've been - MF2 was a huge boon / at least it "felt" like it.
just some thoughts...
even as lucky as i've been - MF2 was a huge boon / at least it "felt" like it.
just some thoughts...
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
My point was really that even with many levels of Magic Finder, "lingering" is understating it a bit
Two levels does double the chance of getting the item, so if I was going to grind for something I would get two levels as well (although probably no more than that). I really believe in low AP weapons though (4AP or lower, so with the JoF I get 4 strikes per round), so there's nothing worth grinding for. Maybe I would go to a 5AP weapon for the RoL, but not for anything else, and I am not really interested in grinding for as long as it would take to get even the RoL.
It's a shame that the best low AP weapons (FP, DotSP, BSS) can all be obtained so easily and so early in the game. Hopefully later releases will add more and better weapons in this category.
Two levels does double the chance of getting the item, so if I was going to grind for something I would get two levels as well (although probably no more than that). I really believe in low AP weapons though (4AP or lower, so with the JoF I get 4 strikes per round), so there's nothing worth grinding for. Maybe I would go to a 5AP weapon for the RoL, but not for anything else, and I am not really interested in grinding for as long as it would take to get even the RoL.
It's a shame that the best low AP weapons (FP, DotSP, BSS) can all be obtained so easily and so early in the game. Hopefully later releases will add more and better weapons in this category.
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Gold: 237559 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:210, AC:212, AD:58-77, AP:4, ECC:16%, CM:1.5, BC:188, DR:3
Gold: 237559 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
rest assured, they will...
not to be cliche - but the best is yet to come!
the thing is, we have some gear that is good enough to last until the end game...
but not a full & robust range of gear for all levels.
just as we will be filling in old areas with new quests,
we will be adjusting what the lower levels get to keep them strong until the "best" is available.
the speed run walkthrough i wanted to write up would show the holes that needed to be filled,
because there are quite a few of them - balance & difficulty is the most important thing.
i am confidant, that given time - these things will change for the better.
unfortunately waiting sucks, but at least there are no IAP's or ads - right?
good posting!
not to be cliche - but the best is yet to come!
the thing is, we have some gear that is good enough to last until the end game...
but not a full & robust range of gear for all levels.
just as we will be filling in old areas with new quests,
we will be adjusting what the lower levels get to keep them strong until the "best" is available.
the speed run walkthrough i wanted to write up would show the holes that needed to be filled,
because there are quite a few of them - balance & difficulty is the most important thing.
i am confidant, that given time - these things will change for the better.
unfortunately waiting sucks, but at least there are no IAP's or ads - right?
good posting!
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[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
IMHO, with respect to weapons and fighting styles, at the moment it is really out of balance. I'm a mathematical kind of guy, and when I do the math dual wield with low AP weapons is overwhelmingly superior to anything else. Just take the BSS as an example. If I wield two of them I get an AC of 64% and AD of 6-14, for one strike. And I get 4 strikes per round (with JoF of course), so the damage per round is 24-56, just from the weapons alone! Add in a level of one-handed sword proficiency, and the AC from just the weapons is 83%! If I want the chance of critical hits, I can switch one BSS to the DotSP. The AC and AD per round are lower, but still very high (52% and 4-9 per strike), and the weapon alone gives me a critical skill of 20, and a critical multiplier of 3. There is no two-handed weapon that comes even close to matching these stats.nyktos wrote: balance & difficulty is the most important thing.
That's a matter of attitudenyktos wrote:i am confidant, that given time - these things will change for the better.
unfortunately waiting sucks, but at least there are no IAP's or ads - right?
Even with the current bugs / issues, AT is the best RPG I have played in a very long time. I figure that by the time the game is out of beta so much will have changed that I can just start again with a new character. So I get to play two games, but in the second, improved, one I will have an "unfair" advantage because of what I learned in the first one
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
There is a plan in the works to correct this imbalance. Oskar is working on it.
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Lvl:52 XP:2597576 AP:12 HP:124 AC:282 AD:30-42 CHS:27 CM:2.0 ECC:18% BC:132 DR:2
Skills: CS:2 IF:2 Ev:3 Rg:1 DgPro:1 1HPro:2 LtAPro:2 FS-DW:2 Sp-DW:1
Equip: FP BSS JoF RoP PRoB SrpHbk GoLF EnhCH EnhCB
Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6
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Other: DotSP VD GoW FB TG RoD+6 Oegyth:6
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
That's good, although I think perhaps not so good for my current build I think I need to kill as many monsters as possible, while I still have the chanceTomcat wrote:There is a plan in the works to correct this imbalance. Oskar is working on it.
Level:71, XP:6493739, PV:608, FQ:84
HP:210, AC:212, AD:58-77, AP:4, ECC:16%, CM:1.5, BC:188, DR:3
Gold: 237559 | RoLS:1, RoL:1, GoW:1, VSH:1, RoFLS:1, WoB:1
HH:1, WA:1, CS:2, Cl:1, IF:4, Ev:3, Re:2, WP:DA:1, WP:1S:1, WP:B:1, AP:L:1, FS:DW:2, S:DW:1
HP:210, AC:212, AD:58-77, AP:4, ECC:16%, CM:1.5, BC:188, DR:3
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
I personally like the endless grinding...
I think its the build up,the excitement just before every drop...will this be the one?
plus the rewarding feeling when you finally get what your looking for
I think its the build up,the excitement just before every drop...will this be the one?
plus the rewarding feeling when you finally get what your looking for
In a hole in the ground.... watching and waiting for the chance to attack!!
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Re: endless grinding for leg items
I agree 100%boots-nz wrote:I personally like the endless grinding...
I think its the build up,the excitement just before every drop...will this be the one?
plus the rewarding feeling when you finally get what your looking for
It can be annoying at times fighting a 1 : 10,000 drop odds, but if it wasn't so tough then the drop wouldn't be so so sweet.
I conclude my point by pointing out the number of players who have successfully found not just one but many of the legendary items... you know who you are addicts *coff coff*