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Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoilers]

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:57 am
by Pyrizzle
Duke wrote:With my main character I sided with Remgard so I could get the upgraded equipment, and the crit hit hat. Now, with my 2nd character, I'm leaning towards siding with the witch to get Marrowtaint, which adds 9 AC and 9 BC, for a total of 18....when the upgradeable equipment only adds 7 total AC and BC combined (excluding the hat, which adds 4 crit, but has -5 BC). Seems from this basis, that the Marrowtaint is the item to get. Would love to see a poll to get peoples preference.
So which side do you think has the greater benifits at this version in the game?

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:00 am
by Duke
Wow! Nice work Pyro!

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:36 am
by Pyrizzle
Marrowtaint:
Lowers AP cost by -1
Increases AC by 9%
Increases BC by 9%
Raises max HP +5

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:31 am
by Mino
I voted Remgard but not just because of the upgrades. You also get rewarded for your help with the Woodcutter's feathered hat, which adds to critical hit skill. And since my main build will mostly use critical hit weapons that was more helpful. The upgraded shield was definitely nice too.

As good as the Marrowtaint is, all the extra stats it offers over the JoF can be gained from regular level ups.

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:07 pm
by Antison
This is easy! The Marrowtaint is the third if not the second best item, only trailing the RoLS and maybe the RoL.

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:44 pm
by Xero
Mino wrote:I voted Remgard but not just because of the upgrades. You also get rewarded for your help with the Woodcutter's feathered hat, which adds to critical hit skill. And since my main build will mostly use critical hit weapons that was more helpful. The upgraded shield was definitely nice too.

As good as the Marrowtaint is, all the extra stats it offers over the JoF can be gained from regular level ups.
+1

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:27 am
by Pyrizzle
On my build that has strong Crits: Going with Remgard seemed like the best option to me

but

On my build w/o Crits: I had to go with the Witch.

I'd have to say really it depends on the build.

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:58 pm
by Mad P
Pyrizzle wrote:I'd have to say really it depends on the build.
Don't agree :D

For me it depends on the character I'm role playing: the good ones go with Remgard, the evil ones side with the witch

But about the items: Marrowtaint is the best as it is effectively a JoF plus almost 6 xp levels. The current Remgard benefits don't come close. Even for the critical hit builds the hat isn't that big a deal...

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:43 pm
by Usirim
imho marrowtaint is the best, the items from remgard can't catch up.
But I prefer to side with the people from remgard. ;)

Re: Remgard Vs The Witch? Which has better benifits? [spoil

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:52 pm
by Mino
Mad P wrote:
Pyrizzle wrote:I'd have to say really it depends on the build.
Don't agree :D

For me it depends on the character I'm role playing: the good ones go with Remgard, the evil ones side with the witch

But about the items: Marrowtaint is the best as it is effectively a JoF plus almost 6 xp levels. The current Remgard benefits don't come close. Even for the critical hit builds the hat isn't that big a deal...
I'll agree that by itself the hat doesn't offer a huge critical hit boost, but if you're using the More Criticals skill, then its beneficial to have the highest possible equipped Critical Hit Skill to get more out of it. If I'm using the DoTSP then I usually use the Dark Protector helmet and Silk Robe (instead of Feathered hat and Villain's leather armor) but if I have a lower critical skill weapon like Skull Crusher, then I put on all critical hit items.

My main game is basically whatever I think will benefit me more so I sided with Remgard, but I also have 2 other games where one is good and the other is more on the evil side, and did the same as you (good sides with Remgard, evil sides with the Witch and is more than happy to use the Marrowtaint).