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Re: Translation in German

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:57 pm
by Mayweed
While I played the Aulowenn & Tiqui quest some weeks ago I regarded the word "intelligible" as a variation of "intelligent" and so understood the phrase "[The creatures ... are] intelligible, but fierce" as "they are no dumb animals, they have wits, but are fierce" - what made totally sense for me. And so I translated it in this way lately ("verständig", "vernunftbegabt").

When reviewing the translation, Moerit remarked that it actually means "verständlich", "understandable", so the phrase would mean "they are able to articulate themselves in a way we can understand, but they are fierce" and we asked us if that really is the correct meaning. And what is the connection to "but fierce" here.

So, how did you understand this sentence, especially native english speakers?
Could you transcribe it in some "simple english" words, please? :oops:

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:19 pm
by Duke
I just did that quest....I read it as the creatures are smart (intelligible) and aggressive(fierce). So to me it means they are not just going to stand there and do nothing, but are willing to attack. does that help?

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:40 am
by Mayweed
Well, that would somehow back my first interpretation. What do you think, Moerit?

Another question:
The Foaming Flask tavern is constantly translated as "Taverne 'Schäumende Flasche'" in the german translation.
But on the world map the english name is displayed and I couldn't find "Foaming Flask tavern" as a single phrase on launchpad.
Are the names on the map plain untranslatable texts?

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:31 pm
by Moerit
I dont know what to say :oops:

I would be satisfied if we use "intelligible" as "smart". But i hope the author will read this topic and may post some clear words. Maybe the use of words is linked to some kind of joke.... actually i dont know exactly cause its been a while since i played the quest ^^

i assume, that the worldmapnames are located at a file which is not attached in launchpad...

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:33 pm
by Duke
Yes, 'smart' would make sense to me.

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:10 am
by Mayweed
Moerit wrote:i assume, that the worldmapnames are located at a file which is not attached in launchpad...
Ok, I found them now ...

The worldmap area names are fixed english texts in the resource file worldmap.xml.
Is there a way to make them variable? If not, I assume it would be better to go back
to the original location names (in the german translation only F.F.Tavern is affected -
what about other languages?)

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:24 am
by RodrigoBorgesFreitas
Mayweed wrote:While I played the Aulowenn & Tiqui quest some weeks ago I regarded the word "intelligible" as a variation of "intelligent" and so understood the phrase "[The creatures ... are] intelligible, but fierce" as "they are no dumb animals, they have wits, but are fierce" - what made totally sense for me. And so I translated it in this way lately ("verständig", "vernunftbegabt").

When reviewing the translation, Moerit remarked that it actually means "verständlich", "understandable", so the phrase would mean "they are able to articulate themselves in a way we can understand, but they are fierce" and we asked us if that really is the correct meaning. And what is the connection to "but fierce" here.

So, how did you understand this sentence, especially native english speakers?
Could you transcribe it in some "simple english" words, please? :oops:
While doing the portuguese-br translation I also had problems with this line (later I will check what was my decision) but the thing that bothered me the most was the fact that intelligible/smart and aggressive are not mutually exclusive. Maybe the best compromisse would be to translate it as the equivalent of: They are capable of communicate effectively (capable of speaking) but are agreessive, this would mean that even though they can speak, if our hero tried to comunicate with them, he could be attacked.

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:11 pm
by Mayweed
The Elm mine near Prim - is it just a name, or does "Elm" has a meaning (another than the so named tree)?
If the name derives from the tree (because a lot of elms grow nearby) I would translate it as "Ulmenmine".
If it's just a name, I wouldn't translate it ==> Elm-Mine.

What do you think in common?
How did you other translators choose?
What did you (the author of the quest) mean by the name?

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:01 am
by DanielS
In polish translation, I have translated "elm" to the polish name of this tree. (Elm mine = Wiązowa kopalnia)

Re: Translation in German

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:27 am
by Mayweed
Thanks. I think, I'll do the same, then.