Hi,
I tried to have the main hand unarmed and the off-hand armed. When I go to the overview, I don't view changes between that and having a weapon and shield (I don't have skill for weapon/armor and style of figth)
Is it possible to activate the dual weapon with one "weapon unarmed" ?
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Unarmed and weapon - dual
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
Valid point...
Right now, dual-wielding is considered wielding 2 weapons and having nothing in a hand makes it not considered a weapon. Should that change? Dunno. Typically, if you have a weapon in one hand and your other hand is empty (such as is the case when wielding just a single short sword) your second hand is not counted as a weapon... it simply aids you in being good with that 1H weapon. In other words, that spare hand is not a weapon unto itself since it's considered part of fighting with a 1H weapon. (main reason why in real life someone who wields a 2H weapon or two 1H weapons is not considered to be twice as good as someone only wielding a single 1H weapon... that spare hand helps even the numbers a bit by allowing the person to be better with the 1H weapon)
Right now, dual-wielding is considered wielding 2 weapons and having nothing in a hand makes it not considered a weapon. Should that change? Dunno. Typically, if you have a weapon in one hand and your other hand is empty (such as is the case when wielding just a single short sword) your second hand is not counted as a weapon... it simply aids you in being good with that 1H weapon. In other words, that spare hand is not a weapon unto itself since it's considered part of fighting with a 1H weapon. (main reason why in real life someone who wields a 2H weapon or two 1H weapons is not considered to be twice as good as someone only wielding a single 1H weapon... that spare hand helps even the numbers a bit by allowing the person to be better with the 1H weapon)
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
I don't think it's good to change that.
However, is there already a skill for one weapon only ? I saw for weapon and shield, dual weapon, two handed-weapon but not for this, is it in project ?
At the same time, I don't have unarmed skill but I would like to know if "weapon and shield" and "unarmed" skills could be used together ? So unarmed and shield could gain from both.
However, is there already a skill for one weapon only ? I saw for weapon and shield, dual weapon, two handed-weapon but not for this, is it in project ?
At the same time, I don't have unarmed skill but I would like to know if "weapon and shield" and "unarmed" skills could be used together ? So unarmed and shield could gain from both.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
"unarmed" is exactly that, unarmed. What's the confusion? The benefits provided from the "weapon & shield" skill is only gained from using one of each.
"Weapon and shield" provides benefit to the hero even if not shield is equipped. Meaning you get the ac increase.
"Weapon and shield" provides benefit to the hero even if not shield is equipped. Meaning you get the ac increase.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
As I saw in http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3976 (Andor's Trail v0.7.0 released to Google Play)
Or am I getting wrong ?
Unarmed skill is in specializing weapon type skills. So unarmed is a weapon type, by this way usable with "weapon and shield" skill.Full changelog of things not mentioned above:
Skills for specializing weapon types (including unarmed)
Or am I getting wrong ?
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
Gurney,
I don't understand your question. Unarmed is no weapon. You can however use a shield.
I don't understand your question. Unarmed is no weapon. You can however use a shield.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
unarmed means, nothing in your hands...
no weapon & no shield.
no weapon & no shield.
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[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
Oh ok.
Thank you for this clarification.
I thought you can fight with one hand having no weapon and another having the shield.
I was wrong.
Thank you for your answers !
Thank you for this clarification.
I thought you can fight with one hand having no weapon and another having the shield.
I was wrong.
Thank you for your answers !
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
Are we talking fighting bare fisted or unarmored ?nyktos wrote: unarmed means, nothing in your hands...
no weapon & no shield.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual
bare fists, plural = no free hands
"Embrace the Shadow"
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]
[Lv: 60] [HP: 175] [AC: 361] [AD: 25-39] [BC: 75]
[Dual Wielding Swords] [Unarmored Fighting]