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Unarmed and weapon - dual

Post by Gurney »

Hi,

I tried to have the main hand unarmed and the off-hand armed. When I go to the overview, I don't view changes between that and having a weapon and shield (I don't have skill for weapon/armor and style of figth)

Is it possible to activate the dual weapon with one "weapon unarmed" ?
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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Valid point...

Right now, dual-wielding is considered wielding 2 weapons and having nothing in a hand makes it not considered a weapon. Should that change? Dunno. Typically, if you have a weapon in one hand and your other hand is empty (such as is the case when wielding just a single short sword) your second hand is not counted as a weapon... it simply aids you in being good with that 1H weapon. In other words, that spare hand is not a weapon unto itself since it's considered part of fighting with a 1H weapon. (main reason why in real life someone who wields a 2H weapon or two 1H weapons is not considered to be twice as good as someone only wielding a single 1H weapon... that spare hand helps even the numbers a bit by allowing the person to be better with the 1H weapon)
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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I don't think it's good to change that.

However, is there already a skill for one weapon only ? I saw for weapon and shield, dual weapon, two handed-weapon but not for this, is it in project ?

At the same time, I don't have unarmed skill but I would like to know if "weapon and shield" and "unarmed" skills could be used together ? So unarmed and shield could gain from both.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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"unarmed" is exactly that, unarmed. What's the confusion? The benefits provided from the "weapon & shield" skill is only gained from using one of each.

"Weapon and shield" provides benefit to the hero even if not shield is equipped. Meaning you get the ac increase.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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As I saw in http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3976 (Andor's Trail v0.7.0 released to Google Play)
Full changelog of things not mentioned above:
Skills for specializing weapon types (including unarmed)
Unarmed skill is in specializing weapon type skills. So unarmed is a weapon type, by this way usable with "weapon and shield" skill.

Or am I getting wrong ?
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Gurney,

I don't understand your question. Unarmed is no weapon. You can however use a shield.

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unarmed means, nothing in your hands...
no weapon & no shield.
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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Oh ok.

Thank you for this clarification.

I thought you can fight with one hand having no weapon and another having the shield.

I was wrong.

Thank you for your answers !
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Re: Unarmed and weapon - dual

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nyktos wrote: unarmed means, nothing in your hands...
no weapon & no shield.
Are we talking fighting bare fisted or unarmored ?
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bare fists, plural = no free hands
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