Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

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Danbarizer
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Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

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Hello !

I want to begin a new party but I have some questions:
First, Is it useful to use two Quicktrike Dagger with Dual Wield Skill
Secondly, is better to take two Quickstrike Dagger or Two Poisonous Blackwater Dagger (with the Misery, they have a cost of 4 ap)
Thank you !
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

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I use "Quickstrike Dagger" atm with "Jewel of Fallhaven" that lowers att cost by 1 AP. As result i have 5 attacks per turn. And that wipe out almost all with good speed) Its damn awesome))
By the way, suck topic already exists)
http://andorstrail.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4261
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

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With Blackwater Misery and the Jewel of Fallhaven or the Marrowtaint, attack cost of the Blackwater Poisoned Dagger is 3 AP.
Attack cost of the Quickstrike Dagger when combined with the Jewel of Fallhaven or the Marrowtaint is 2 AP.
Base max AP is 10 but that can be upgraded to 12 with 2 points in the Combat Speed skill.

Dual wielding QSD is very little gain over single wielding it alongside a shield if at all. Personally, I'd stick with a single QSD + shield if you want to go that route.

Dual wielding Blackwater Poisoned Daggers or Blackwater Daggers (while also using Blackwater Leather Armour and Blackwater Leather Cap) is a phenomenal jump in stats over single wielding it alongside a shield. You'll need to spend a few more skill points to see this build compare but once you do then it becomes extremely powerful as well. Fighting Style: Dual Wield, Specialization: Dual Wield, Dagger Proficiency, Light Armour Proficiency...
Level: 58, HP: 102, AC: 295%, AD: 46-56, AP: 2/12, BC: 35%, DR: 4
Gold: 75235 | RoLS: 0 RoL: 0 SRoV: 0 VSH: 0
Skills: IF1, Ev1, Ev2, Ev3, CE1, CS1, CS2, Re1, WA1, HH1, Cl1, HH2, DaggerPro1, LightArmorPro1, ShieldPro1, WA2, Cl2
Equipment: Enhanced Combat Helmet, Serpent's Hauberk, Marrowtaint, Quickstrike Dagger, Remgard Shield, Villain's Ring, Villain's Ring, Leather Gloves Of Attack, Enhanced Combat Boots
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

Post by Duke »

Actually the AP for the blackwater daggers is the same as it is for Quickstrike, 3 AP, so with marrowtaint or Jewel of Fallhaven, it reduces to 2 AP. So, these are very good options for dual wielding. :-)

Edit: My mistake, blackwater misery conditions raises AP +1.
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

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Equipping any Blackwater item will give you the actor condition "Blackwater Misery" which, among other things, increases your attack cost by 1 AP.

http://andorstrail.irkalla.cz/condition ... ter_misery
Level: 58, HP: 102, AC: 295%, AD: 46-56, AP: 2/12, BC: 35%, DR: 4
Gold: 75235 | RoLS: 0 RoL: 0 SRoV: 0 VSH: 0
Skills: IF1, Ev1, Ev2, Ev3, CE1, CS1, CS2, Re1, WA1, HH1, Cl1, HH2, DaggerPro1, LightArmorPro1, ShieldPro1, WA2, Cl2
Equipment: Enhanced Combat Helmet, Serpent's Hauberk, Marrowtaint, Quickstrike Dagger, Remgard Shield, Villain's Ring, Villain's Ring, Leather Gloves Of Attack, Enhanced Combat Boots
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

Post by Duke »

My apologies. ... I knew about the decrease in AC but missed the part about the attack cost. Thank you for correcting me.
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Re: Two Daggers And Dual Wielding

Post by Danbarizer »

Sorry if a topic exist already.
Thank your for yours answers. I think I will try with Two poisoned daggers (In fact, I have and other perso lvl 30 with a BC stuff but I hate miss my hits hahaha) but I don't know where i can find proficiency skill
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