Yeah , I seen that source code...
A rock had the value 25, which is 25%
The RoLS had a value of 1/10000 in the same block, meaning 1%/10,000
This means the ring drops at a ratio of. 1:1,000,000. NOT 1:10,000
if the rock is 25%, that means the RoLS @ 1/10000 is out of 1 % ,meaning it drops 0.00001% of the time NOT 0.01%
1% divided by 10,000 is the drop rate %
If I'm wrong, that means that a rock would drop 2,500% and I know for fact rocks do not drop from garg trainers at that rate.
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal
Level: 39, Experience: 1046378, Gold: 81601, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, Hitpoints: 60, Attack Chance: 191%, Attack Damage: 27, Attack Cost: 2, Critical Hit Chance: 0%, Critical Multiplier: ~, Block Chance: -16%, Damage Resistance: 1
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal
I think you did get it wrong. Its: 1:10,000 AND NOT 1:1,000,000.Rambo wrote:Yeah , I seen that source code...
A rock had the value 25, which is 25%
The RoLS had a value of 1/10000 in the same block, meaning 1%/10,000
This means the ring drops at a ratio of. 1:1,000,000. NOT 1:10,000
if the rock is 25%, that means the RoLS @ 1/10000 is out of 1 % ,meaning it drops 0.00001% of the time NOT 0.01%
1% divided by 10,000 is the drop rate %
If I'm wrong, that means that a rock would drop 2,500% and I know for fact rocks do not drop from garg trainers at that rate.
Just double check the source code. The handling of numbers like "25" and extremly low chances like "1/10000" is different.
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HP: 398, AC: 303%, AD: 84-95, AP: 4, ECC: 12, CM: -, BC: 13%, DR: 0
RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 1, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 2, VSH: 1, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal
Ok
sorry, my mistake.
Guess I just have horrible luck at these drops.
I've killed thousands upon thousands of them and at one point you get really discouraged.

Guess I just have horrible luck at these drops.
I've killed thousands upon thousands of them and at one point you get really discouraged.
Level: 39, Experience: 1046378, Gold: 81601, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, Hitpoints: 60, Attack Chance: 191%, Attack Damage: 27, Attack Cost: 2, Critical Hit Chance: 0%, Critical Multiplier: ~, Block Chance: -16%, Damage Resistance: 1
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5725 imps... still nothing. I really wonder how much longer I will pursue this search. It's seriously tiring.
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
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Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0
1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
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Oh, I agree Link, that was was the worst. I ended up going with the save/reload method. Still takes a while, but much faster than waiting for respawn and chasing them down.
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I GOT IT !!!
It happened between 5820 and 5843, can't say exactly, as I didn't check after each respawn.
However, one thing is peculiar about this number: it is very close to the number of trainers/masters I had to hunt for the RoLS, which was about 5750, or so. I really wonder how many monsters the ElyR will require and if it turns out to be more or less around the same count.
So, happy hunting everybody.
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It happened between 5820 and 5843, can't say exactly, as I didn't check after each respawn.
However, one thing is peculiar about this number: it is very close to the number of trainers/masters I had to hunt for the RoLS, which was about 5750, or so. I really wonder how many monsters the ElyR will require and if it turns out to be more or less around the same count.
So, happy hunting everybody.
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Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0
1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal
Congrats! That is a great find! best one handed sword out there!
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Some 6700 now and still searching...
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=o!Mayweed wrote:Some 6700 now and still searching...
Yikes. Okay, so maybe investing in Treasure Hunter will be a good idea... I'm thinking of grinding for a RoL, but man. Jinkees.
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LVL 61 XP 4132831 Gold 26875 HP 149 AC 265 AD 47-64 AP 3 ECC 14 CM 2.0 BC 110 DR 5
RoLS 0 ElyR 0 RoL 0 ChaR 2 GoLF 0 SRoV 0 VSH 0 WMC 0 GoW 2
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Hmmm, I'm not really convinced yet. It does a great job in keeping me alive, no doubt about it. Just now I was surrounded by 3 chaos magicians in the Iqhan cave and within one round they got me down from 218 to 108 HP.Duke wrote:Congrats! That is a great find! best one handed sword out there!

Well, it took the rest of the room to fully replenish my life bar again. Therefore, I must conclude it is a pretty darn good little life sucking rapier.
However, it is neither really quick, nor very strong.
The 5AP are a real bummer, as well as it doesn't have any critical hit chance or a multiplier for critical hits. And the damage potential from 1-6 is rather poor for a "legendary" sword.
This rapier is all about life leaching and absolutely nothing else, which I honestly find quite a bit disappointing. The same item with 4AP and a little critical hit chance of... let's say 10% with a double damage multiplier, would make this whole weapon an entirely different thing: Truly legendary, that is

my 5 cent...
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Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0
1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
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Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0
1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
My shiny new website: http://www.lifendive.com
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