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Rapier of lifesteal

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Rambo
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Rambo »

Yeah , I seen that source code...

A rock had the value 25, which is 25%
The RoLS had a value of 1/10000 in the same block, meaning 1%/10,000

This means the ring drops at a ratio of. 1:1,000,000. NOT 1:10,000

if the rock is 25%, that means the RoLS @ 1/10000 is out of 1 % ,meaning it drops 0.00001% of the time NOT 0.01%

1% divided by 10,000 is the drop rate %

If I'm wrong, that means that a rock would drop 2,500% and I know for fact rocks do not drop from garg trainers at that rate.
Level: 39, Experience: 1046378, Gold: 81601, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, Hitpoints: 60, Attack Chance: 191%, Attack Damage: 27, Attack Cost: 2, Critical Hit Chance: 0%, Critical Multiplier: ~, Block Chance: -16%, Damage Resistance: 1
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Samuel »

Rambo wrote:Yeah , I seen that source code...

A rock had the value 25, which is 25%
The RoLS had a value of 1/10000 in the same block, meaning 1%/10,000

This means the ring drops at a ratio of. 1:1,000,000. NOT 1:10,000

if the rock is 25%, that means the RoLS @ 1/10000 is out of 1 % ,meaning it drops 0.00001% of the time NOT 0.01%

1% divided by 10,000 is the drop rate %

If I'm wrong, that means that a rock would drop 2,500% and I know for fact rocks do not drop from garg trainers at that rate.
I think you did get it wrong. Its: 1:10,000 AND NOT 1:1,000,000.

Just double check the source code. The handling of numbers like "25" and extremly low chances like "1/10000" is different.
Level: 101, XP: 18780586, Gold: 358739
HP: 398, AC: 303%, AD: 84-95, AP: 4, ECC: 12, CM: -, BC: 13%, DR: 0
RoLS: 2, ElyR: 1, RoL: 1, ChaR: 1, GoLF: 1, ShaF: 1, SRoV: 2, VSH: 1, WMC: 0, GoW: 0
Rambo
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Rambo »

Ok :) sorry, my mistake.

Guess I just have horrible luck at these drops.
I've killed thousands upon thousands of them and at one point you get really discouraged.
Level: 39, Experience: 1046378, Gold: 81601, RoLS: 0, ElyR: 0, RoL: 0, Hitpoints: 60, Attack Chance: 191%, Attack Damage: 27, Attack Cost: 2, Critical Hit Chance: 0%, Critical Multiplier: ~, Block Chance: -16%, Damage Resistance: 1
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

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5725 imps... still nothing. I really wonder how much longer I will pursue this search. It's seriously tiring.
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0

1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
My shiny new website: http://www.lifendive.com
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Duke »

Oh, I agree Link, that was was the worst. I ended up going with the save/reload method. Still takes a while, but much faster than waiting for respawn and chasing them down.
Lvl78 XP9403007 Gold 248643 AP3 HP139 AC350 AD42-59 BC97 DR1
SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
Rols1Rol2Elyr1Char1Golf1Shaf0Srov1Vsh1
Ozzy
lvl:47 HP114 AC254 AD27-37 BC112
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Link »

I GOT IT !!!

It happened between 5820 and 5843, can't say exactly, as I didn't check after each respawn.
However, one thing is peculiar about this number: it is very close to the number of trainers/masters I had to hunt for the RoLS, which was about 5750, or so. I really wonder how many monsters the ElyR will require and if it turns out to be more or less around the same count.

So, happy hunting everybody.
Link
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0

1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
My shiny new website: http://www.lifendive.com
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Duke
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Duke »

Congrats! That is a great find! best one handed sword out there!
Lvl78 XP9403007 Gold 248643 AP3 HP139 AC350 AD42-59 BC97 DR1
SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
Rols1Rol2Elyr1Char1Golf1Shaf0Srov1Vsh1
Ozzy
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

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Some 6700 now and still searching...
ionsedfisheads
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by ionsedfisheads »

Mayweed wrote:Some 6700 now and still searching...
=o!
Yikes. Okay, so maybe investing in Treasure Hunter will be a good idea... I'm thinking of grinding for a RoL, but man. Jinkees.
I mock you with my monkey pants!
Also, I liek caek. No, it's not a lie... Maroon. -_-

Shoji
LVL 61 XP 4132831 Gold 26875 HP 149 AC 265 AD 47-64 AP 3 ECC 14 CM 2.0 BC 110 DR 5
RoLS 0 ElyR 0 RoL 0 ChaR 2 GoLF 0 SRoV 0 VSH 0 WMC 0 GoW 2
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Link »

Duke wrote:Congrats! That is a great find! best one handed sword out there!
Hmmm, I'm not really convinced yet. It does a great job in keeping me alive, no doubt about it. Just now I was surrounded by 3 chaos magicians in the Iqhan cave and within one round they got me down from 218 to 108 HP. :shock:
Well, it took the rest of the room to fully replenish my life bar again. Therefore, I must conclude it is a pretty darn good little life sucking rapier.

However, it is neither really quick, nor very strong.
The 5AP are a real bummer, as well as it doesn't have any critical hit chance or a multiplier for critical hits. And the damage potential from 1-6 is rather poor for a "legendary" sword.
This rapier is all about life leaching and absolutely nothing else, which I honestly find quite a bit disappointing. The same item with 4AP and a little critical hit chance of... let's say 10% with a double damage multiplier, would make this whole weapon an entirely different thing: Truly legendary, that is ;)

my 5 cent...
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0

1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
My shiny new website: http://www.lifendive.com
last updated: 01-23-2014 16:59 CET
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