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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Usirim »

RoL could be very usefull with a low level Char when one use it with dual wielding.
BUT getting two(!!) of them at Lvl 40 or so is some kind of... impossible...

Since there is every once in a while the discussion of drop rate going on: IF there is a need for changing this what about limited duration for such an item?
No, I don't want a change, I am happy just collecting them, but using two RoL is funny after all... :mrgreen:
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Lvl: 200
XP: 145.569.369
Gold: 5.8M
RoLS: 17
ElyR: 9
RoL: 6
ChaR: 9
GoLF: 2
ShaF: 7
SRoV: 15
VSH: 7
WMC: 12
GoW: 6

Base values
HP: 1000
AC: 280
AD: 90
max AP: 10 (12)
BC: 180%
DR: 0
(Jun 2017)
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Covenant »

Mayweed wrote:I think, at this time an overflow of the xp counter occurs.
I didn't actually get to level 400. I just did some snooping and have found that XP is stored as a 32-bit signed integer in the savegame file. So, 2 to the power of 31 is your max XP, the rest is just spread sheet math in excel to plot the rate of increase in amount of XP for each level up and extrapolate out up to the level that exceeds this amount - hence the cap is one lower. So yes, the moment you go past this, left most bit goes from 0 to 1 and the value is interpreted as a negative number.

--Edit--
I got my second RoL, can duel wield it now.
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Sarumar »

fiernaq wrote:*says the guy with a level 190 character* :lol:

Go pick on someone your own size! Image
:lol: ... im here if you like to try, or nowadays there are greater one too (without crit chance, but with 5*my hp).

good hunting
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

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Got my first ROL after 6 months of grinding. 750 gems and 567 rocks. I won't repeat this experience for awhile since its a pain to grab the ROL :lol:
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3

UPDATED: 02/01/2014

*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Duke »

Congrats Randerthall! It is great when that finally drops into your inventory, but man, that is the worst one to grind for. It's great using it too, just watching your HP fill up as you take down monsters.
Lvl78 XP9403007 Gold 248643 AP3 HP139 AC350 AD42-59 BC97 DR1
SP:D MC3 BC CS2 QL4 IF MF EB DW2
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by randerthall »

Thanks Duke 8-) The ROL made my journey to Lodar less stressful and helped me conserve my BMP for the ghosts and the demon boss :mrgreen:

I actually screamed YES when I got it. Finally I was free from that cavern :lol:
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3

UPDATED: 02/01/2014

*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

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randerthall wrote:Got my first ROL after 6 months of grinding. 750 gems and 567 rocks. I won't repeat this experience for awhile since its a pain to grab the ROL :lol:
Congratulations Randerthall!

When i got my Rol i jumped up and down out of happiness! My (now ex) girlfriend was a lil shocked... She think she never really understood how staggering a 1 : 10,0000 chance is.
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Link »

So guys,

back to topic. What do you actually think of the RoL as a weapon?
Obviously, it is an amazing piece of equipment in terms of life regeneration during combat. Absolutely no doubt about it.
However, I find it a little too weak to actually make a difference when it comes to fighting HP intense monsters, as for instance Maonits. As well as I find it too weak in terms of general damage (1-6) especially with regard to its drop chance.

Ultimately, I'm not using it but the the DoSP instead. With its high chance to land a critical hit that triples your max damage (in my case 183 atm), I simply kill so much faster than I would ever do with the RoL. Obviously this accounts only for non-crit-immune mobs, but still, during normal walks over the main map, this is what you usually encounter.

So, I'd like to propose an improved version (maybe connected to a quest?!). This version would include a critical hit chance, maybe around 25% chance to multiply your hit by a factor of 2,5, and increase the damage potential from 1-6 to 3-6, simply in order to make hits count.

What do you think?
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0

1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by randerthall »

Pyrizzle wrote:
randerthall wrote:Got my first ROL after 6 months of grinding. 750 gems and 567 rocks. I won't repeat this experience for awhile since its a pain to grab the ROL :lol:
Congratulations Randerthall!

When i got my Rol i jumped up and down out of happiness! My (now ex) girlfriend was a lil shocked... She think she never really understood how staggering a 1 : 10,0000 chance is.
My wife is the same :mrgreen: 6 months of endless boring grinds pays off big time :lol:

Back to the topic, the ROL is good as is. No drawbacks except the 5 AP attack cost.
Level 108*
HP:169 AC:348% AD:63-78 CHS:-24 DR:1 BC:208%
WA2 HH2 DO2 MC6 CS2 IF1 MF2 1HSPro1 L.ArmPro3 FS:DW2 S:DW1 CL2 EV3

UPDATED: 02/01/2014

*Blackwater Gear with ROL, 2 ROLS, E. Combat Boots & Gloves
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Re: Rapier of lifesteal

Post by Link »

randerthall wrote:No drawbacks except the 5 AP attack cost.
Oh yeah, I forgot those. They are a real bummer too and thus yet another point pro DoSP.
Level: 100|Exp:18063694|Gold:699883|AP:12/3|HP:396|AC:336%|AD: 56-69|BC:133%|DR:4
Skills: WA:2|HH:2|CS:2|QL:2|CE:2|IF:5|CL:2|EV:1|Reg:1|OhSp:2|Sh:1|FS-W&S:2|Spec-W&S:1
Items: RoLS:1|ElyR:0|RoL:1|ChaR:1|GoLF:1|ShaF:1|SRoV:1|VSH:1|WMC:0|GoW:0

1st RoLS at: 2916 Trainers and 2731 Masters
1st RoL at: 5843 imps
My shiny new website: http://www.lifendive.com
last updated: 01-23-2014 16:59 CET
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